Off Topic Climate Strike

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DMD said:
Oh, there are plenty of people with answers, it's just that the ones that will be effective will mean a significant shift in how we live, and I think we're a long way from getting people to accept that. If it's not managed very carefully, it's going to take the livings away from people in poor nations that have **** all as it is.

I've maintained for many years that the argument over mans contribution simply clouds the issue. Nature will do a grand enough job with us shifting the timescales and intensity, but we can't keep using resources, and dumping the residue into the air land and water at the rate we do.
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That concerns me very much and i think about it a lot. If we keep digging out stuff from the middle and adding more weight to the top, when will the planet implode and collapse like a broken egg?
 
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people have protested about pollution and the environment for as long as I can remember - whether its Jonathon Porritt of the Ecology Party in the seventies - people protesting about acid raid - people protesting about nuclear power - people protesting about exhaust fumes - people protesting about CFCs - things change but at the end of the day each subsequent generation is using more and more power, whether through automation in the workplace or in their leisure activities or simply because there's more and more people on the planet and many third world countries are developing - asking world leaders to sort it out is not going to get anywhere - look how Brazil reacted when confronted with burning the rain forest - we can all feel better by doing our bit - but how do you stop country's like India developing - you cant - too many people living longer and too many people wanting to live life to the full - if it makes you feel better reusing a plastic bag then fine, every little helps but it really is like pissing in the centre of a volcano hoping it will put it out
 
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DMD said:
And all the time the generations blame each other, the businesses and financial institutions that have made a fortune, and funded the science and media outlets have worked out how to make a killing on the next stage.
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Getting into New World Order conspiracy theory there, this will open up a can of worms. Interestingly I saw a video the other day about rising sea levels, think the bloke's name was John Pena. Anyway, without having to understand the science, if rising sea levels were a genuine threat there would be zero investment anywhere that was 'threatened' . Banks would not lend money and it would be impossible to get insurance - the premise being that the financial institutions know full well what's what. The Maldives was meant to be underwater years ago according to Al Gore, but they still built a ruck of hotels, and Obama has just spunked $15 million on a beach side estate. Follow the money...
 
City Man said:
People are free to put threads on here about climate change but they should expect puns, sarcasm, derailments, pithy comments, subjective anecdotal unsubstantiated opinions.

Humourless precious berks be warned.
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It was me who started the thread...and I started it with sarcasm and pithy comments to get it on track right from the start

My subjective anecdotal and unsubstantiated opinion is the serious derailments have been quite interesting though
 
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Chesh1recat said:
Getting into New World Order conspiracy theory there, this will open up a can of worms. Interestingly I saw a video the other day about rising sea levels, think the bloke's name was John Pena. Anyway, without having to understand the science, if rising sea levels were a genuine threat there would be zero investment anywhere that was 'threatened' . Banks would not lend money and it would be impossible to get insurance - the premise being that the financial institutions know full well what's what. The Maldives was meant to be underwater years ago according to Al Gore, but they still built a ruck of hotels, and Obama has just spunked $15 million on a beach side estate. Follow the money...
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I think 2008 put that premise to bed!

The Maldives are an interesting case. They know they are under threat and in the early 2000's they had a policy of encouraging tourism so they could build up a fund which would ultimately allow them to buy land in countries not threatened by flooding where displaced Maldive folk could relocate to. I believe this policy was dropped a few years ago and now they're focusing on recovering sunken land.
 
highpeak tiger said:
No... Science (am not certain about the climatology... you will get more evaporation and rainfall etc.)
I have no problem with the science, I just can't see our political system moving far enough or fast enough to solve it.
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Fair enough, I thought you were being sarcastic for some odd reason.

A more apt analogy would have been to put the ice in a separate jug and then pour it in.
 
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Plum said:
50 posts a day this thread. Is that a record?
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To be fair, it's been productive as we're well on the way to solving it all.

We just need a bigger jug, or to drill a hole in the existing one. <ok>
 
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