Off Topic Climate change/ pollution

[Asterix]

Isn't it? Have we been running out of electricity? Sometimes seems like wishful thinking from electric-sceptics when people talk about how hard it is to scale up electricity generation. Surely one of the simpler problems to solve in the scheme of things, and one we've gradually been dealing with for centuries.

Seen a few stories in recent days about renewables making up incredibly high proportions of our electricity. Not mentioned on here yet though.

Yesterday I was chatting to a guy about the receiving station at Cottingham for the Dogger Bank windfarm. His work is the installation of new overland and underground cabling nationally. If the current infrastructure was up to the task, this would not be needed.

I will just chuck this out here again, smoke and mirrors.

Receive email from energy supplier, We are huge and mighty and fantastic, all your electricity is from renewable sources.
6 months later. Due to the increase in gas prices, your electricity charges will be going up.

 

[Paul Jewitt]

Yesterday I was chatting to a guy about the receiving station at Cottingham for the Dogger Bank windfarm. His work is the installation of new overland and underground cabling nationally. If the current infrastructure was up to the task, this would not be needed.

I will just chuck this out here again, smoke and mirrors.

Receive email from energy supplier, We are huge and mighty and fantastic, all your electricity is from renewable sources.
6 months later. Due to the increase in gas prices, your electricity charges will be going up.

Unfortunately the electricity price does generally depend on the gas price. When there aren't enough renewables/nuclear available to meet demand (most of the time) the next cheapest option is gas, so that is what sets the power price. All the renewables that haven't been sold on the day ahead market then sell at the gas price (plus their subsidies) on the capacity market.

If you want to understand more just Google energy capacity market and remit and you'll find a full run down of how it works.

 

[Edelman]

Isn't it? Have we been running out of electricity? Sometimes seems like wishful thinking from electric-sceptics when people talk about how hard it is to scale up electricity generation. Surely one of the simpler problems to solve in the scheme of things, and one we've gradually been dealing with for centuries.

Seen a few stories in recent days about renewables making up incredibly high proportions of our electricity. Not mentioned on here yet though.

We need to scale up renewables that's for sure .
We can't be held hostage every few years .

 

[Asterix]

Unfortunately the electricity price does generally depend on the gas price. When there aren't enough renewables/nuclear available to meet demand (most of the time) the next cheapest option is gas, so that is what sets the power price. All the renewables that haven't been sold on the day ahead market then sell at the gas price (plus their subsidies) on the capacity market.

If you want to understand more just Google energy capacity market and remit and you'll find a full run down of how it works.

I think you should forward your reply to the person who sent me the first email. ALL and RENEWABLE, to me, does not include gas.

 

[Paul Jewitt]

I think you should forward your reply to the person who sent me the first email. ALL and RENEWABLE, to me, does not include gas.

I agree, I was merely pointing out how gas prices affect the price of renewable, you may have misinterpreted my post

 

[PLT]

Great Britain households to be urged to use more power this summer as renewables soar

Incentives to absorb surplus wind and solar energy could help balance the grid and lower bills

www.theguardian.com

Seeing a lot of stories of this nature lately. Renewables are really paying off and it's getting better all the time. Some people will be gutted though.

 

[Heimdallr]

Great Britain households to be urged to use more power this summer as renewables soar

Incentives to absorb surplus wind and solar energy could help balance the grid and lower bills

www.theguardian.com

Seeing a lot of stories of this nature lately. Renewables are really paying off and it's getting better all the time. Some people will be gutted though.

I think there will be many Europeans, who have always been anti-EU, who will be watching what's happening west in the US and the rest of the world, the effect on all of us and realising that the US is no longer the great friend many thought it to be, under Trump.

It is madness that a country would not want to be energy independent, using easily maintained renewables as much as possible. For environmental and political reasons. The sooner countries can function with the minimal usage of oil and gas, and thus minimise the effect of certain countries around the world, the better.

 

[tigermaul]

Great Britain households to be urged to use more power this summer as renewables soar

Incentives to absorb surplus wind and solar energy could help balance the grid and lower bills

www.theguardian.com

Seeing a lot of stories of this nature lately. Renewables are really paying off and it's getting better all the time. Some people will be gutted though.

I’d never even heard of plug-in solar. It’s a game-changer I think, and probably one of the things tipping the balance to renewable self sufficiency on sunny days. Just ordered a little 1.6kwh system for a basic € 919 (4x400w panels plus EcoFlow Stream Ultra battery/inverter unit). With transport and a system smart meter comes to nearly €1300 to an island in Greece, and with an electrician installing it I suspect it will more than double the initial cost but I can’t do the physical side at the mo as waiting a hip op. About to be legal in the UK too although the official solar installers don’t like them (I wonder why). Balkonkraftwerke (balcony power plants) are huge in Germany. They seem to be working well in the UK too although officially aren’t DIY plug and play at the mo. But plenty of people do it, putting 800 watts back in the house system simply by plugging them into a 3-pin dedicated socket. In the UK they’re supposed to be hard-wired into the main consumer unit. When I’ve a bit more dosh and I’ve seen how it all works out in Greece then I plan to do it in the UK too.