Off Topic Climate Change & Nature thread

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None of us can carry the world’s problems on our shoulders, sure. But pretending there is no problem solves nothing. And we can each do our bit.

I’m quite concerned about the U.K.s declining bird population. It’s not hopeless though; the Atlantic herring shoals were recently in what seemed like irreversible decline, but a concerted international effort to manage fishing stocks turned that around. There are things we humans can do, to manage our impact on nature.
weather and climate are different animals. The weather could change in a trice if the wind changes direction. The climate is set on its inexorable course.
Not pretending there’s not a change, just don’t accept it is an incontrovertibly negative change. Some species will be worse off, others will be better off, just as it has been since the planet was created and ultimately nature will sort out any changes itself, even if that were to mean the ultimate human catastrophe of human extinction. The earth doesn’t belong to humans.

The world and life would still carry on after we’ve gone, but we are the only species capable of solving global problems and we seem to have an insatiable urge to innovate and solve problems. As well as being the biggest danger to life we are also the only species capable of making the discoveries which could ultimately preserve life and make the world a better place, but we can only do it in stages, some of which will be negative.

As a species we are more aware now than we were 50 years ago and do a lot more to mitigate some of our negative impacts, but alas we replace those with others and due to massive world population growth and growth in high energy dependant technologies we struggle just to stand still.

We each only have around 80 years of life to live before we turn to dust and in a maximum of about 150 years, there will be no one alive who has met us or personally remembers us.

But we won’t be around to worry about that. Live life while you have it, because you don’t get a second chance.
 
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Just watching the news and it looks like it's heavy rain down your way, dry up here from early afternoon and we had sunshine until dark. Spring is slowly coming, our bluebells and alliums are pushing through, and our crocuses are in flower. :emoticon-0138-think


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Not sure if ducks are endangered or affected by climate change but i suspect they’re enjoying themselves at the moment
 
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I want to know why it’s called the covered end. I’m expecting to get wet sitting in my seat there this evening

Perhaps this is why it’s in the cheapest category? :emoticon-0138-think
 
I want to know why it’s called the covered end. I’m expecting to get wet sitting in my seat there this evening

Perhaps this is why it’s in the cheapest category? :emoticon-0138-think
Covered End, your CEO is missing a trick there, Durex should be approached regarding sponsorship. :bandit:


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Looking at some of the guys sitting near me it’s too late for that !

Their mothers should have known better
 
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And cute. Which brings them a lot of air time and attention. It’s why I think they were held up as the poster boys for the terrible dangers of climate change many years ago, but now that they are thriving it gives sceptics like me a boost.

Attenborough needs to find a cute member of another species forlornly crawling along a dried up river bed or struggling to stay afloat in flood waters, to get a new wave of believers. I’m sure his huge team of cameramen and researchers can find him some suitable footage to narrate over :emoticon-0105-wink:
 
And cute. Which brings them a lot of air time and attention. It’s why I think they were held up as the poster boys for the terrible dangers of climate change many years ago, but now that they are thriving it gives sceptics like me a boost.

Attenborough needs to find a cute member of another species forlornly crawling along a dried up river bed or struggling to stay afloat in flood waters, to get a new wave of believers. I’m sure his huge team of cameramen and researchers can find him some suitable footage to narrate over :emoticon-0105-wink:
True sceptics don't need a boost. They just say it's all fake news, or "The greatest hoax of the century" to quote the sceptics favourite poster boy.
 
I don't recall David Attenborough spending much time talking about climate change.

I do recall him speaking at length about destruction of natural habitats by direct Human action, such as conversion of wilderness into farm land, pollution of the oceans with plastic and oil and chemicals, and all the other ways that people destroy the places where animals live.

It's a pity in my view that Attenborough is being made a subject for amusement on this thread for all the work he has tried to do to prevent extinction of many species because their living space is being stolen and destroyed. Not by the climate. By direct Human greed and malice.
 
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Attenborough is my personal hero so totally agree Lardi. He has talked about the climate change though also
 
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Attenborough is my personal hero so totally agree Lardi. He has talked about the climate change though also

Fair enough. Perhaps it's just the stories of direct Human destruction of animal environments which have stuck best in my memory.

I'm not saying his perspective on these matters is beyond any reproach. But I'm not keen on him being characterised as a slightly whimsical or deluded tree hugger, along with his band of 'believers', as in easily duped sentimental lefties.

I also find the notion that Polar bears gaining weight = climate change being nothing more than a massive hoax, to be a bizarre equation.
 
Fair enough. Perhaps it's just the stories of direct Human destruction of animal environments which have stuck best in my memory.

I'm not saying his perspective on these matters is beyond any reproach. But I'm not keen on him being characterised as a slightly whimsical or deluded tree hugger, along with his band of 'believers', as in easily duped sentimental lefties.

I also find the notion that Polar bears gaining weight = climate change being nothing more than a massive hoax, to be a bizarre equation.
@Ubedizzytoo has a mischievous sense of humour.
 
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