City transfer thread

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I'm starting to think we don't actually have many suitors for many of our players. The good stuff has left already. Huddlestone, Jelavic, Hernandez all have question marks over their heads. Non of the rumours went very far.

and I'm almost convinced that even though we don't need to sell to buy, that as far as forwards go that's what Bruce wants to do.


Also my money is on Hernandez being pants this season. He should and could tear this league and his best season came in Serie B after all but you can bet he wouldn't mind leaving. He hasn't done enough here to impress though.
 
I'm starting to think we don't actually have many suitors for many of our players. The good stuff has left already. Huddlestone, Jelavic, Hernandez all have question marks over their heads. Non of the rumours went very far.

and I'm almost convinced that even though we don't need to sell to buy, that as far as forwards go that's what Bruce wants to do.


Also my money is on Hernandez being pants this season. He should and could tear this league and his best season came in Serie B after all but you can bet he wouldn't mind leaving. He hasn't done enough here to impress though.

In answer to the first bit, are you not surprised there's no interest after the ****e season they've all had?

Hernandez should do ok in this league, whether or not he wants to be here is by the by; we aren't going to stop him leaving so until then he might as well play and keep up match fitness.
 
Also my money is on Hernandez being pants this season. He should and could tear this league and his best season came in Serie B after all but you can bet he wouldn't mind leaving. He hasn't done enough here to impress though.

I think he played on the wing, cutting in with his pace to score the goals. I may be wrong, but I thought I'd read that when he signed and if this is the case, are we playing him out of position?
 
Approaching 500 pages of mostly tosh.

There is the odd gold nugget I have supplied to fellow posters but little else. I think it is about time to retire this thread. RIP.

PS What do you think the attendance will be tonight?
 
Which is impossible to judge as player adapt to different teams differently. If he scores 20 for Bristol City doesn't mean he will get 20 for us.

In other news Saints bought Juanmi from Malaga for 5m. Saw this guy play a lot in Spain last year, played for Spain too. Just 4m cheaper than Gray.

If he got 18 last season then went on to get 20 this season in a side much worse than ours then you'd be pretty safe to say he would have scored plenty for us had we signed him. I don't think we will sign him and I think he'll be one of the top 3 goal scorers in the division and we'll look back with regret.
 
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In 1964-65 would people have said that Ken Wagstaff, Ken Houghton and Ian Butler were worth £40,000 each before seeing them play for us?
Not sure what your angle here is on this question Peter as it's a little unclear who you might be responding to from previous posts, if you are at all responding to other posters.
Are you suggesting we should pull out all stops to get Gray asap before he ends up somewhere else, or the exact opposite as there is not enough history yet to risk signing him (Gray) and/or that he could maintain his performance level (goals/game ratio) in the Championship ?
In the 64/65 era there was significant history available for the 3 players you mention, at the level (3rd Division) City we playing in. We were not encumbered with FFP restrictions and had a benefactor (Needler) and manager (Britton) who were very astute in the game, plus a relatively large fan base compared to other teams in that division. The risk analysis for all three of those players were essentially no-brainer decisions. IMO I think we got all three at bargain prices (despite them all coming for what were then record signings for City).
I'm not so sure it's as clear cut in the Gray situation today. Personally I would take the risk on this lad, but the conastraints (FFP, sluggish interest in those players we seem to need to offload to cement incoming deals, and the vagaries of the transfer window process) are working against the risk analysis decision making here.
Full steam ahead and damn the torpedoes I say, but it's not my wallet !

Apologies if I was reading too much into your question, or if I didn't understand its intention.
 
The owner at Bristol is seriously wealthy. Even so, the squad they have is some distance behind ours.

Yes he is and Brizzle are desperate, very desperate. Dont see much quality in the Brizzle squad.
I think that Gray might just drag his heels over this one. He is better off staying put @ Brentford for now at least.

I reckon Gray will bang in 25 goals this season.

Not a chance if he signs for Brizzle. imo.
 
Not sure what your angle here is on this question Peter as it's a little unclear who you might be responding to from previous posts, if you are at all responding to other posters.
Are you suggesting we should pull out all stops to get Gray asap before he ends up somewhere else, or the exact opposite as there is not enough history yet to risk signing him (Gray) and/or that he could maintain his performance level (goals/game ratio) in the Championship ?
In the 64/65 era there was significant history available for the 3 players you mention, at the level (3rd Division) City we playing in. We were not encumbered with FFP restrictions and had a benefactor (Needler) and manager (Britton) who were very astute in the game, plus a relatively large fan base compared to other teams in that division. The risk analysis for all three of those players were essentially no-brainer decisions. IMO I think we got all three at bargain prices (despite them all coming for what were then record signings for City).
I'm not so sure it's as clear cut in the Gray situation today. Personally I would take the risk on this lad, but the conastraints (FFP, sluggish interest in those players we seem to need to offload to cement incoming deals, and the vagaries of the transfer window process) are working against the risk analysis decision making here.
Full steam ahead and damn the torpedoes I say, but it's not my wallet !

Apologies if I was reading too much into your question, or if I didn't understand its intention.
You seemed to understand what I was talking about pretty well. I'm thinking that people are not correctly valuing Gray in the light of current circumstances. Some fans are years behind in transfer fees and other fans would pay anything because it's not their money. Somewhere in between is sensible. You say we got the three players for bargain prices. I don't think anybody was saying they were bargains at the time. The amounts were huge compared to what was being paid around that time. People were shocked by the amount. This is the issue I am trying to suggest. The purchases in 1964-65 changed the club dramatically. I know we have spent lots of money since and they haven't always been successful. It should be Bruce's decision. I just dont think that the money should enter into it if Bruce is confident. I dont want him spending the same amount in the last few hours of the window in desperation despite missing out on people he has identified as being able to do a job weeks ago.
 
All of it. There's **** loads to take into account before you can come to the correct figure. Likewise there's ****loads to take into account before you can come to the correct sales/buying figures. It also assumes FFP is done on a season by season basis, it's not, it's over a three year period.
I thought FFP was on a season by season until next year?
 
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I also don't think we've dropped out for Andre Gray over £500k. It's possible, but I reckon our previous interest was more posturing, upsetting the player, making sure he knows our interest is genuine. I think we purposefully stopped a smidgen short, waiting until one of our other centre forwards leaves before we can actually push a deal through.


As much as it pains me "and it does" I could not agree more with ^^^^^^^^ this.