City transfer thread

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You keep mixing up stats with facts, you can't see that when making a judgment it is wise to use every shred of evidence available to you. In Geo10's case he used his on-going experience of having watched the games and, I would think, his on-going experience of looking at stats and game reports; he didn't just rely on stats, he used his overall experience of watching football, our games in particular - the crazy thing is you 'liked' it, you thought him correct, you thought his post deserved praise, as you don't like them all, do you - or is that stat false? You've got it wrong and haven't got the balls to admit it, instead you chose to make it personal with me and it just isn't working, is it?

What's this nonsense about a text message from my mate - have you lost the plot, or are you simply a fool and a liar? But let us be hypothetical shall we - if I were to post about a text from my mate, I will guarantee that I will post the same version in 5 months time, or openly admit I got it wrong.

Throww away the shovel, I've given you loads of opportunities to end this and you keep on shooting your mouth off - but that's what kids do, so I don't blame you. <hug>

It was, as has been stated on many occaisions one match. I liked it on the basis that on that one instance Livermore played well, but that certainly wasn't the case for the whole of the season, was it? We know that because I have shown you exactly what a professional statistical comparison site says, they say that Huddlestone over the course of the season was MUCH the better player, but we both know that. Or at least I do, as do the professionals who put the stats together, unfortunately you seem in denial and a little hard of reading when presented with evidence that makes you look a bit silly.

The text message from your mate was an example of the 'quality' of your evidence - ****, for avoidance of doubt.

Why use professional stats when you can use a forum with which to base your expert opinion.

That's what kids do? **** off idiot, you're boring me now.
 
So no one has signed A. Gray yet ?

Or have Bristol City signed him ?

Nope, He's still a Brentford player. Bristol have had a bid accepted and im guessing he'll be having talks with them.

Hopefully Burnsy will ask Bruce about it tomorrow and we'll hear if we're still interested. The last I heard from Bruce on Gray was after the game on Sunday, Burnsy asked him if the deal is "dead in the water" Bruce said Not yet.
 
The important accounting treatments used are that when a player is purchased the fee is capitalised to the Balance Sheet and then amortised through the Profit and Loss account over the length of their contract. When a player is sold the fee received is taken immediately to the Profit and Loss account alongside any Net Book Value that remains for that player on the Balance Sheet.....so yes your correct

But at what rate are they amortised?

If you pay £9m for a player on a 3 year deal do you write off straight line over the 3 years, amortising £3m per year, or is a different method used possibly some variation of diminishing value? Would the same player with 1 year left on the contract be worth £3m?
For ffp do they have set rules for amortisation or can a company choose their own method
 
But at what rate are they amortised?

If you pay £9m for a player on a 3 year deal do you write off straight line over the 3 years, amortising £3m per year, or is a different method used possibly some variation of diminishing value? Would the same player with 1 year left on the contract be worth £3m?
For ffp do they have set rules for amortisation or can a company choose their own method

transfer fee divided by contract term.
 
9m for Gray would be the 7m + 2m that Brentford originally wanted for us. Reports always include add-ons in the official figure. If we gave him a 5-year deal then that gets amortised at 1.8m a year. I can understand AA not wanting to splurge on unproven talent, but this guy is anything but when he's improved year on year and has started the season on fire.
 
transfer fee divided by contract term.

I more than understand accounting treatment but never looked into it for football clubs. What would happen for ffp if you bought a player on 3 year contract then after 1.5 years you extend his contract for another 3.5 years
 
It was, as has been stated on many occaisions one match. I liked it on the basis that on that one instance Livermore played well, but that certainly wasn't the case for the whole of the season, was it? We know that because I have shown you exactly what a professional statistical comparison site says, they say that Huddlestone over the course of the season was MUCH the better player, but we both know that. Or at least I do, as do the professionals who put the stats together, unfortunately you seem in denial and a little hard of reading when presented with evidence that makes you look a bit silly.

The text message from your mate was an example of the 'quality' of your evidence - ****, for avoidance of doubt.

Why use professional stats when you can use a forum with which to base your expert opinion.

That's what kids do? **** off idiot, you're boring me now.

Sorry folks, but can someone explain to him that we all use stats, but not just stats?

As for this conversation not being relevant to this thread, it would have been if it hadn't been so pedantic about stats, as the nub of it was the relative performances of Hudds and Livermore last season (and that of Hudds in this season) which is extremely pertinent to our sales in and sales out policy - transfers.