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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Oct 20, 2022.

  1. Billy Batts

    Billy Batts Well-Known Member

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    Not for me, not miles better anyway. I like the lad a lot but thought he's struggled a bit at times this season. Just my opinion. Chuffed he's back mind.
     
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  2. Smug in Boots

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    I don't think we know the best position for Alese yet ...

    ... don't think he does but he's a good football player.
     
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  3. Oliver's Army

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    I reckon Alese will end up as a CB. Him and Ballard would be a quality partnership with a year or two more experience imo.
     
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  4. Mackem-Tiz

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    Great shout OA.
     
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  5. Oliver's Army

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    Keeping hold of Ballard will be the difficult bit.
     
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  6. TopCat.

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    He needs to improve his aerial ability.
    Fortunately we have the right manager for that
     
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  7. TopCat.

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    Act of cowardice from the Millwall keeper
     
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  8. LD19SAFC

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    How much must he be genuinely worth? A lot more than the £2M we paid less than a year ago…
     
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  9. TopCat.

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    We signed him on a 4 year deal. We hold all the cards. I wouldn't accept less than £15m for him
     
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  10. Oliver's Army

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    Yeah, I'd be looking at that sort of figure plus sell ons and additional appearances payments. Knocking on for 20 plus maybe 20%
     
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  11. TopCat.

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    Football transfers have gone mental over the last few years. The scum were offering £30m for some Watford striker in the summer
     
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  12. Oliver's Army

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    I love Batth, a proper old school defender, but I wouldn't be against giving Ballard the armband next season, especially if Evans struggles to recover.
     
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  13. Flash Gordon

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    What he's worth and what we should accept are different in my view.

    What he's actually worth is maybe around £8-10m but we need to look at Harry Souttar as the benchmark. He had a bit more experience and was a bit of a higher profile, but he went for £15m rising to £20m. We've got to demand the bottom end of that at the very least if clubs come knocking for him.
     
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  14. Hudson92

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    I’d argue he’s better than Harry souttar so would be wanting 20m minimum
     
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  15. Prehab26

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    Yeah. He is a top player and some PL clubs who want a low to mid range investment for massive potential and sell on should be looking.

    Ballard is absolutely quality and a baby in terms of centre halfs.

    I wouldn't underestimate the influence of Barrth too. He wis vital in learning Ballard the dark arts and the little sneaky tricks that make a difference. They actual compliment each other superbly.
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  16. LD19SAFC

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    Batth and Ballard is a great pairing. Our best since Kone and Kaboul under Allardyce?
     
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  17. TopCat.

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    Ahh, Marc Wilson and Jake Salter-Clarke so cruelly overlooked once again.....
     
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  18. Brainy Dose

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    Agree. Our recruitment and player management policy is currently largely excellent. Light years away from our time under Ellis' ownership. Those who are critical of KS need to take note.
     
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  19. clockstander

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    Cowardice is not the word I would use, but I get your meaning. in my eyes another "c " word fits him, and the crime as that is what it was and GBH level imo.
     
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  20. Robertson

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    We’ve done some good deals recently but £2 million for Ballard has got to be one of the best. Batth for free wasn’t bad either.
     
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