The clubs aim was 17th and you were well aware that was the case and he finished 12th and 13th. So I was right saying you can be **** and do a job.
I hate to say it and I absolutely hate the man but he achieved his agreed aims so he didn’t fail. The club maybe failed you?
No, it’s actually an opinion as nobody but PIF know. And in future years he will always be classed with Dinnis and Souness as one of the most inept managers we ever had. Steady Eddie proved the squad wasn’t any where near as bad as Bruce had them performing.
He was the only one who actually said about the potential. Maybe you agreed which if so then ok. But he put his neck out. Truth is Wood did help us achieve albeit he didn’t score goals. I was one of them who thought he was crap. I can’t lie.
He was indeed a horrible manager and his attitude left a lot to be desired. But his record reads two mid table finishes and no relegations.
The point raised was that you can be **** and do a job Both of them knew the aim was 17th.. He came 12th and 13th, so he succeded in that key area of his role. The areas he failed in are a separate matte and they're keen to ignore the facts and move to another area of debate.( one not in dispute) he was **** and in the end it was a mess.
But you are falling into the mistake CC makes namely judging a manager on just one factor. That’s like saying you are good at your job because you can add up even if you weren’t able to subtract, divide or multiply (apologies for the extremely over simplifying of your job). It’s the whole picture that counts not just the bottom left hand corner.
This is a fallacious comment. At no point have I done that or said anything close The point of discussion is matter of fact Steve bruces aim was 17th and you knew that.. He finished 12th and 13th.
No. His aim initially wasn’t seventeenth it was mid table. When we were performing badly he changed his aim to seventeenth. Ashley’s aim was seventeenth. I would agree with that but not that initially it was Bruce’s aim.