Chris Hughton

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It is interesting, but the line up's don't indicate defensive mentality, lack of creative freedom given to players. The amount of times we hammer the ball in the box hoping for Kamara to get his head on it.

Agreed. It seems more to do with CH's tactics for a particular game that's at fault. I want to see us playing like we did against Swansea when we won 4-3 - not the apoology for footbaall that we played agaimst Wigan!!!
 
Would people rather see exciting and us getting relegated? Or the perceived boring football and us staying up?
 
Ahem....



So David Fox didn't play centre midfield last season then, the equivalent position to where Tettey plays? <doh>

And sorry, if you really think Tettey is a "damn sight better technically" than Fox then you clearly don't know what you're on about so I needn't bother wasting my time "working through" the rest of whatever bilge you put up <ok>

Oh great, we truly have the worlds most obnoxious poster don't we?

That point has been laboured ad nauseam above.

If you are so utterly juvenile as to believe that "I don't agree with one of your points, therefore the whole of your argument is wrong" is either a logical or a strong argument, you really are not worth the time of day.

Try reading what I've written above.

If you think Tettey and Fox play in a similar way, name of position aside, you need your head examined. If you think Tettey is worse technically than Fox, fine, but that's like arguing that Bassong is worse technically than Whittaker. Yes, both defenders, but what they bring to the game is different. Al I can say is that I would put a lot of money on Tettey being more valuable than Fox.

If your best effort at analysing my arguments/opinions is to not engage at all and just call it bilge, **** off. Care to comment on whether you agree that the other players I mentioned are technical improvements? Or can I just assume you disagree and are thick as pigshit?
 
I have to say Canary Rob, for somebody who openly admits they're not happy with current results, performances, etc as in

I AM NOT HAPPY WITH HUGHTON EITHER. I DO NOT THINK WE ARE PLAYING WELL. I DO NOT ENJOY WATCHING US AT THE MOMENT. I AGREE IT HAS TO CHANGE.

you're doing a mighty fine job of protecting / defending him <ok>
 
Would people rather see exciting and us getting relegated? Or the perceived boring football and us staying up?

I think the point is that exciting football is guaranteed to get you relegated which everyone seems to think it will. Just look at Swansea and even us last season. I would however rather play exciting football and get relegated than boring football and get relegated.

To be honest with a much improved defence it seems to hit me that we can actually afford to play better football this year than we did last year. I know elements of that is because of the men we committed forward last year but Bassong and Turner are better covering defenders than Ward and Whitbread/ Bennett.

Also @CanaryRob, he played well at Peterborough which has to be the last time we actually played well. I think he's been treated pretty unfairly this season and wouldn't be surprised if he just wants to leave after just getting frozen out for no apparent reason. I think that there were times this year when we have been screaming for Fox to be on the pitch, I am not sure whether Hughton understands how well he can dictate a game. I no it's not guaranteed we would have more points if Fox was involved more in the right games, but I would put every penny I have on it. People that say he doesn't do enough defensively, personally I think it's bollocks. Nothing like someone to put their foot on the ball and dictate the tempo of the game, and as well as that offer an option deep when you're under the cosh. You can't concede when you're in possession (unless Paul Robinson is in goal), and we've been ****e at keeping possession all season.
 
Oh for Christ sake you've outdone your last post for patheticness.

What is hyperbolic about saying that Lambert is not Hughton? What is hyperbolic about saying that Lambert was a better manager than Hughton? What exactly is hyperbolic about saying that is SAF had taken over our team, he probably would have got us playing his way? Opinions can't be, by their very nature, hyperbolic.

Either address what I say in a constructive way or don't respond. All I've got from you is petty nit-picking and deliberate misinterpretation of what I've written.

Get your knickers out of a twist man, and stop making up words like patheticness, it really does you no favours <ok>

Because he isn't Lambert. He doesn't have Lambert's unique ability to work out how to change a game with a substitution. He doesn't have Lambert's searing self-confidence/arrogance to throw on three strikers. Not even SAF could have maintained it. SAF might have done better because he would have done it his way, but it wouldn't have been Lambert's. Lambert, I honestly believe, is the best manager we've ever had and his system would only work for him.

I'd have thought that was obvious.

Well Christ, if these aren't three of the most hyperbolic phrases I've read on here for a while I don't know what are! <doh>
 
I think the point is that exciting football is guaranteed to get you relegated which everyone seems to think it will. Just look at Swansea and even us last season. I would however rather play exciting football and get relegated than boring football and get relegated.

To be honest with a much improved defence it seems to hit me that we can actually afford to play better football this year than we did last year. I know elements of that is because of the men we committed forward last year but Bassong and Turner are better covering defenders than Ward and Whitbread/ Bennett.

I'll assume you mean it is NOT guaranteed? But yeah I agree. It is frustrating that you feel our defence is much better so we can afford to attack. But I guess its not the way it works. We could be more attacking but you really do have to have a good defence to continue to be a force in the PL. Of course it is really just a case of the perfect balance being struck. I'm hoping that this is a transition season for us and CH will keep us up playing nitty gritty football but build on the attack in the summer.
 
Get your knickers out of a twist man, and stop making up words like patheticness, it really does you no favours <ok>



Well Christ, if these aren't three of the most hyperbolic phrases I've read on here for a while I don't know what are! <doh>

Ah, good to see you've continued nit-picking, with no attempt to engage with any of my comments. If I want to get my knickers in a twist, I will. I have to put up with **** football, I'm not going to put up with **** fans as well.

For the last time, AN OPINION CAN'T BE HYPERBOLIC. For Christ's sake, you can't exaggerate an opinion, it's my opinion, you stupid little man.
 
Oh great, we truly have the worlds most obnoxious poster don't we?

That point has been laboured ad nauseam above.

If you are so utterly juvenile as to believe that "I don't agree with one of your points, therefore the whole of your argument is wrong" is either a logical or a strong argument, you really are not worth the time of day.

Try reading what I've written above.

If you think Tettey and Fox play in a similar way, name of position aside, you need your head examined. If you think Tettey is worse technically than Fox, fine, but that's like arguing that Bassong is worse technically than Whittaker. Yes, both defenders, but what they bring to the game is different. Al I can say is that I would put a lot of money on Tettey being more valuable than Fox.

If your best effort at analysing my arguments/opinions is to not engage at all and just call it bilge, **** off. Care to comment on whether you agree that the other players I mentioned are technical improvements? Or can I just assume you disagree and are thick as pigshit?

Are you on a wind-up mate? <doh> Either that or you need to change your medication <laugh> <laugh>
 
Ah, good to see you've continued nit-picking, with no attempt to engage with any of my comments. If I want to get my knickers in a twist, I will. I have to put up with **** football, I'm not going to put up with **** fans as well.

For the last time, AN OPINION CAN'T BE HYPERBOLIC. For Christ's sake, you can't exaggerate an opinion, it's my opinion, you stupid little man.

Aren't you the hot-shot lawyer guy who usually posts eloquently and often makes a lot of sense? Has someone hacked into our account or something because if anyone's been juvenile and pathetic here pal it's sure as hell not me <ok>

Chill out my friend, like I said earlier you're not doing yourself any favours here <ok>
 
To be honest with a much improved defence it seems to hit me that we can actually afford to play better football this year than we did last year. I know elements of that is because of the men we committed forward last year but Bassong and Turner are better covering defenders than Ward and Whitbread/ Bennett.

Nail on the head, squire <cheers>
All this 'harder to beat' and 'resilience' counts for boogie all if it doesn't earn you goals/points. So we now play with two defensive mids and no guile in front of them - regardless of who we face.

Lambert = no fear. Hughton = total fear
 
I'll assume you mean it is NOT guaranteed? But yeah I agree. It is frustrating that you feel our defence is much better so we can afford to attack. But I guess its not the way it works. We could be more attacking but you really do have to have a good defence to continue to be a force in the PL. Of course it is really just a case of the perfect balance being struck. I'm hoping that this is a transition season for us and CH will keep us up playing nitty gritty football but build on the attack in the summer.

Yeah, I did, sorry about that. I agree with your points.

I think Garrido is better at deciding when to go forward than Tierney, plus is more intelligent on the ball than him. As well as that Bassong and Turner read the game much better, because of that I think we can afford to attack similar to last season ESPECIALLY when you play two holding midfielders. That should allow us to play a lot more higher up the pitch and our defence covering one another instead of being so rigid and fairly stationary like we're currently set up.
 
Yeah, I did, sorry about that. I agree with your points.

I think Garrido is better at deciding when to go forward than Tierney, plus is more intelligent on the ball than him. As well as that Bassong and Turner read the game much better, because of that I think we can afford to attack similar to last season ESPECIALLY when you play two holding midfielders. That should allow us to play a lot more higher up the pitch and our defence covering one another instead of being so rigid and fairly stationary like we're currently set up.

I agree and I said earlier if it was up to me I would be more attacking but I can see what CH is trying to do. I do feel we are much more controlled defensively out of possession then before. If we can add that to our attacking play next season we could be very good.
 
Aren't you the hot-shot lawyer guy who usually posts eloquently and often makes a lot of sense? Has someone hacked into our account or something because if anyone's been juvenile and pathetic here pal it's sure as hell not me <ok>

Chill out my friend, like I said earlier you're not doing yourself any favours here <ok>

I've usually found you to be quite reasonable, but for some reason you've not bothered to carefully read a single one of my posts and it gets frustrating. You are being juvenile: "knickers in a twist", attacking me not my comments, "medication", slapheads after every comment as if I'm the on being thick.

I've explained what can and can't be hyperbolic, I've also explained what were, admittedly, my not very well explained initial comments. Now I'd be grateful if you would either work through what I've explained and actually tell me where you disagree, which is fine, rather than tell me I'm wrong for no reason, slapping your head. Either that, or let's just let it lie.
 
I agree and I said earlier if it was up to me I would be more attacking but I can see what CH is trying to do. I do feel we are much more controlled defensively out of possession then before. If we can add that to our attacking play next season we could be very good.

I think with the remaining games we should "go for it", it will surprise opposition because they know at the minute we can't create chances and see how we do defensively. Maybe not so much Swansea because they could rip us apart depending on how the midfield battles pans out and it also could be a valuable point, but why not against Arsenal and Reading? Arsenal isn't a game which will depend on us staying up and the chances of us shutting them out again I think are slim, and Reading's defence has been pretty poor all season.