CHAMPIONSHIP REBUILD THREAD

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ValleyGraduate12 said:
But their lunacy has affected the value of every player, regardless of level or ability. Because of them, an average player will now cost £10-15m :(
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So what ? It's just money that is handed to the Club's by the likes of Sky. It has no real value since it isn't actually earned.
Next season they will dole out more, and the transfer fees will go even higher.
Transfer fees increase year on year, but now they are rising at an even faster, more alarming rate.
Wages are also following a similar trend.

Anyone remember the financial crash that took place some ten years or so ago ?
What's to prevent something similar happening, but this time within the footballing world ?
Club's are stretching themselves so much to compete with the really heavy spending of those owned by the billionaires who have a never ending supply of dirty/stolen money to top up Sky funding, that it can only end in tears.

With fans' of more modest outfits demanding that their Club compete and spend, spend, and then spend some more, I'm surprised it hasn't happened already.
I firmly believe, hope even, that the Premier League is on borrowed time.

I hope The Swans' have a rainy day fund tucked away somewhere.

Posted with my usual caveat that my opinion is not written in stone.
 
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Newportswan said:
As with all Chelsea players it is tough for them to break into the first team, more so for strikers. So if he does well he may be with us for a couple of seasons then Chelsea can see if he is worth keeping or selling. For most of these youngsters the chance to play first team football in the premier league is a huge draw. I think he will be good for us after all anyone who can come of the bench grab a goal an maybe change a game is just what we need at the moment.
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Not to mention add some pace upfront.
 
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swanseaandproud said:
And that shows what a pathetic club we are .....It is know wonder nobody thinks we will survive another season..
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Six seasons so far , averaging 11 or 12 in the table , the only team that has a net spend in the black and somehow we are pathetic . We had a lot of players in that price range Dai , used them and sold them for a profit or kept them and been very " Successful " within our limits
 
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Stumpy said:
We'll, have Everton made a bid? no direct or verifiable quotes in the press to confirm any offer. Same for us, have we rejected anything? again no quotes, only reports with words like "believed to have" to go on and little more.

If Everton have made a bid and we have rejected it then, if we didn't know before we sure know now. This whole saga has little or nothing to do with the actual sale of Sigurdsson.

What this is if the reports are true, is a good old school yard brawl between a naughty kid picking on a naive kid hoping to pinch his ipod. Thing is the naive kid turned out to be a bit of a ninja and was able to fend off his attacker by cuffing him in the moolies, making all the other kids in the yard laugh at the naughty kid. Classic school yard action

In grown up terms it seems Everton tried to pull a fast one and in doing so really pissed us off. What Everton didn't realise when they went behind everyone backs to make an illicit deal with Sigurdsson was, our board know all about making illicit deals behind everyone's back and so were able to defend themselves. Something good come from the take over shenanigans after all.

Again, if reports are true then it appears we are remaining belligerent over the whole affair and are demanding our pound of flesh, £50m, to cover the cost of replacing Siggy and as reparation for their indiscretions and disrespect.

If we do get £50m for Siggy it will be like we've made Everton freely give us the money we are in truth stealing off them.
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Unless you've already got deals in place for your incomings the extra few £m you squeeze out of us will be eaten up by clubs who know that you've made us overpay, and thus what you have in the kitty.

You'll end up gaining **** all, in fact the longer it drags on, the worse your desperation will get when the cheque finally lands, and the more you'll overpay yourselves.
 
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Tobes said:
Unless you've already got deals in place for your incomings the extra few £m you squeeze out of us will be eaten up by clubs who know that you've made us overpay, and thus what you have in the kitty.

You'll end up gaining **** all, in fact the longer it drags on, the worse your desperation will get when the cheque finally lands, and the more you'll overpay yourselves.
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But not as much as you :)
 
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Tobes said:
i thought he was overpriced at £30m, but City paying £50m for Walker, made me realise the market is off its tits, to an extent that's barely comprehensible.
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Yup. I think I mentioned this on your board. With City paying £100m for 2 fullbacks, Gylfi is worth at least £50m.

Saying that, when you consider you mugged City of £50m for Stones and Juve mugged Utd £90m for Pogba, all of a sudden, £50m sounds cheap.
 
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The Premiership is run for the Benefit of the top 6 clubs and not for the rest of us ...We just make up the numbers and it is costing us a fortune just to be here. The gap has widened too much between the top who can spend any amount of money and not care. They can buy players that they know wont even get in the side because they have so much money. But for the rest of us we are being forced if we want a quality player to pay well over the odds and we do have to worry what we spend....We are at a point now that well over 80% of all income goes on wages and taxes and insurance and agent fees........How much longer before the bubble bursts and the lesser clubs like us go out of business......
 
Tobes said:
Unless you've already got deals in place for your incomings the extra few £m you squeeze out of us will be eaten up by clubs who know that you've made us overpay, and thus what you have in the kitty.

You'll end up gaining **** all, in fact the longer it drags on, the worse your desperation will get when the cheque finally lands, and the more you'll overpay yourselves.
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You're as delusional as your clubs board of directors tobes if you think we're desperate. You do sound a tad bitter to me though? are you?

Buy or sell, it doesn't matter to us, we look great whatever happens unlike you guys who've got no more face to lose.

As I see it, it breaks down like this,
Scenario 1: We sell Sigurdsson to you for £50m,that's a ridiculous amount. You pay the stupid money for Siggy and in doing so make yourselves look like an easy touch in negotiations, a club easily manipulated, cajoled and, dare I say it, bullied into paying way over the market value for a player worth half what you paid.

Scenario 2: Everton walk away, after all the effort you and the 'press' have put in too to get Siggy or at least destabilise him. If you do this then you'll have made yourselves look like boardroom clowns, ducking one minute and diving the next. It will be hard for any one 'negotiating' with you in the future to take you seriously.

Scenario 3: You do nothing, you dither around no knowing what to do for the best, your board ends up looking indecisive, clueless even.

Whatever you decide you'll be hard pushed to gain any dignity from any scenario. Whatever you decide we'll support you :D Thanks for the juice

Back to you guys now but tobes, mate, if I can ask, what with all this talk about Sigurdsson I've forgot all about your own £50m, midfielder. Is Ross Barkley, remember him? is he still giving you guys the bird by not signing the contract your board is trying to ram down his throat?
 
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Stumpy said:
You're as delusional as your clubs board of directors tobes if you think we're desperate. You do sound a tad bitter to me though? are you?

Buy or sell, it doesn't matter to us, we look great whatever happens unlike you guys who've got no more face to lose.

As I see it, it breaks down like this,
Scenario 1: We sell Sigurdsson to you for £50m,that's a ridiculous amount. You pay the stupid money for Siggy and in doing so make yourselves look like an easy touch in negotiations, a club easily manipulated, cajoled and, dare I say it, bullied into paying way over the market value for a player worth half what you paid.

Scenario 2: Everton walk away, after all the effort you and the 'press' have put in too to get Siggy or at least destabilise him. If you do this then you'll have made yourselves look like boardroom clowns, ducking one minute and diving the next. It will be hard for any one 'negotiating' with you in the future to take you seriously.

Scenario 3: You do nothing, you dither around no knowing what to do for the best, your board ends up looking indecisive, clueless even.

Whatever you decide you'll be hard pushed to gain any dignity from any scenario. Whatever you decide we'll support you :D Thanks for the juice

Back to you guys now but tobes, mate, if I can ask, what with all this talk about Sigurdsson I've forgot all about your own £50m, midfielder. Is Ross Barkley, remember him? is he still giving you guys the bird by not signing the contract your board is trying to ram down his throat?
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Without Sigurdsson you'd have gone down last season, that's why your club have put a price tag on him that is meant to deter suitors.

Only the player wants the move, and every day it drags on, it makes replacing your star man at a vaguely sensible price even harder. You can't move for his successor until his departure is confirmed.

If we pay the asking, it doesn't make us look weak daft lad, did City look weak by paying the daft asking for Walker?

We'd just be slapping you in the face with our cock, as we wander off with your star man mate ;)
 
How do you know we would have gone down Tobes ? Sunderland and hull saved us from relegation and beating Everton was just a confirmation and a bonus....We ended up safe before the season ended not because we were good but because Hull bottled it....
 
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