CHAMPIONSHIP REBUILD THREAD

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I am still to be convinced a good season in the Championship doesn't necessarily make a PL player. I would keep him, but I don't see him as a starter and I still believe we need to sign another CB. The few games I have watched him on the TV, he is still prone to wander and lose his player. Yes he has improved, still not convinced he is our answer. Squad member at best.
That's my view as well !
 
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I am still to be convinced a good season in the Championship doesn't necessarily make a PL player. I would keep him, but I don't see him as a starter and I still believe we need to sign another CB. The few games I have watched him on the TV, he is still prone to wander and lose his player. Yes he has improved, still not convinced he is our answer. Squad member at best.


Didn't Vardy make the step from non league to the Prem ?
 
Didn't Vardy make the step from non league to the Prem ?
Yes he did, but what is the point, as many others who have tried to do the same thing has failed. So because Vardy did well that means Bartley is as well. My opinion is he is a good championship defender and a good squad member, just don't see him as a starter, if you do good for you. I don't.
 
Yes he did, but what is the point, as many others who have tried to do the same thing has failed. So because Vardy did well that means Bartley is as well. My opinion is he is a good championship defender and a good squad member, just don't see him as a starter, if you do good for you. I don't.

I'm surprised that I have to make the point. The point is that player's can make it either via lower divisions, non league, or come back better equipped after a loan period, and to write him off without having another look at him would be an opportunity missed.
I wasn't actually comparing Bartley with Vardy.
Your opinion is as valid as anyone else's, and I don't see why you are getting het up about it.
If Clement decides he isn't up to it, then it has cost the Club nothing.
If, on the other hand .... <ok>
 
I am still to be convinced a good season in the Championship doesn't necessarily make a PL player. I would keep him, but I don't see him as a starter and I still believe we need to sign another CB. The few games I have watched him on the TV, he is still prone to wander and lose his player. Yes he has improved, still not convinced he is our answer. Squad member at best.

Fully agree, but he does deserved the opportunity to see if he can now handle it at this level, because he has all of the physical attributes to form a great partnership with Mawson for the next 5-10 years.

Until proven, he'd be our 3rd choice CB but we still need a CB to come into the team. Fernandez and Mawson still make to many errors for me.
 
[QUOTE="ValleyGraduate12, post: 10560258, member:

" Rangel we need to keep - player coach or something, but he shouldn't leave the club."



Clearly coming to the end of his illustrious playing career, but I see him as part of the furniture.
Perhaps he could become an ambassador at large, particularly in Spain, where he could spend some time looking for another Michu, or indeed, another Rangel.

I think he's done/doing his coaching badges? I'd prefer to see him coaching within the club, maybe with the youngsters.
 
Fully agree, but he does deserved the opportunity to see if he can now handle it at this level, because he has all of the physical attributes to form a great partnership with Mawson for the next 5-10 years.

Until proven, he'd be our 3rd choice CB but we still need a CB to come into the team. Fernandez and Mawson still make to many errors for me.
I haven't said anywhere here that we shouldn't look at him, what I have said I see him as a squad player and wouldn't improve the starting 11.
 
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You do not think he is good enough?

I think he could end up at an Everton but not a Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool etc. Of course, a lot could happen over the next 5-6 years, but at present I see nothing that suggests a top 4 side.
 
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