CFC v QPR ( MD Thread )

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qprbeth said:
My own opinion is that at this moment in their careers, when both paired with Caulker...Dunne is playing better than Rio.
That is all I am saying

I am truly surprised at that...I welcomed Rio more than most....as I thought he would have an Indian Summer of a season...and I thought Dunne was passed playing in the Premiership.

But what I am saying is that in the last few matches I have seen (ManU, Stoke, SHampton, WHU, Lpool, Villa and Chelsea)...Dunne has outplayed Rio
Rio was destroyed in the United, Wham matches....Dunne did pretty well vs Villa and Chelsea.
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Beth, I agree with you. Dunne is playing better than Rio and over the last couple of games he seems to have rolled back the years. I don't know if he can keep that up, but he should definitely start ahead of Rio, regardless of the 3 match ban.

That is a separate point to me thinking that Rio is still a better player than many on here believe him to be. I suspect that, when he gets the chance, he may prove a few wrong. Time will tell.
 
That is a separate point to me thinking that Rio is still a better player than many on here believe him to be. I suspect that, when he gets the chance, he may prove a few wrong. Time will tell.[/QUOTE]
Regardless of his off-pitch and often moronic behaviour, we all know that Rio has been the stand out Prem CB for the last decade. At his best, he was majestic. I was delighted when we got him, as I thought he would be perfect in the sweeping role in a back 3.
His performances to date have been questionable at best. He played with an almost cavalier approach. For Me this is simple, Harry has to pick players who will give 100% effort for the team. No egos , no individuals, no bullsh•te. A 100% Rio would deffo be in our team.
 
rangercol said:
Fer seems to be quite a luxury player. His work rate really seems suspect whenever I watch him.
A fit Kranjcar would offer more imo and obviously a fit Taarabt would be a much better option.

I think players like Hoilett make big impacts when they come on later in games is because the game is becoming stretched, allowing more space and players are also tiring.
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I agree with that. What I don't really understand if Niko is not fit Is why is he on the Bench. If he's fit why isn't he playing - we are really missing having even 1 creative player on the park, and Niko's free kicks. It was smart of Harry to keep Charley on when he brought on OBZ, but taking off Hoilett reduced our attacking threat from some speed on the flanks, and hopeful punts up the park, to just the latter. I thought we needed Niko on for 1 of Hoilett or Fer.
 
Ozzie ain't you ever heard of not 100% fit? Bobby Zamora for example.

Kranjcar has a problem with his toe and there's not 90 minutes in him yet.

QPR Oslo said:
It was smart of Harry to keep Charley on when he brought on OBZ, but taking off Hoilett reduced our attacking threat
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Unfortunately due to FIFA rules you're not allowed have 12 players on the pitch. That's not Harry's fault
 
Swords Hoopster. said:
Ozzie ain't you ever heard of not 100% fit? Bobby Zamora for example.

Kranjcar has a problem with his toe and there's not 90 minutes in him yet.



Unfortunately due to FIFA rules you're not allowed have 12 players on the pitch. That's not Harry's fault
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What? Thought it was 22! What I meant was if he was so keen to bring on OBZ it would have been more obvious to take off Charlie, which thankfully he didn't, but I thought the better first substitution to have made would have been Niko for 30/40 minutes or so for 1 of Hoillet or Fer, if he is fit enough for that, like as you say BZ is. But Harry didn't do it, so I wonder how much playing time Niko can do now, perhaps not very much - he got what 3 minutes last game..
 
rangercol said:
If Adel continues with his hard work in training I think he will be in the squad v Citeh.
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I'm really looking forward to next week.

City were clinging on today against 10-man United and they have a must-win European game in the week.

Silva is out, Adel could be back, and LR will be rocking.

We can do them.
 
rangercol said:
Fer seems to be quite a luxury player. His work rate really seems suspect whenever I watch him.
A fit Kranjcar would offer more imo and obviously a fit Taarabt would be a much better option. I think players like Hoilett make big impacts when they come on later in games is because the game is becoming stretched, allowing more space and players are also tiring.
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In a nutshell
 
rangercol said:
If Adel continues with his hard work in training I think he will be in the squad v Citeh.
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Why wasn't he Saturday then, SWP was!. I heard Harry say if Adel trained as hard that day (Thursday I believe) as he had done all week, maybe he would be in the squad for Chelsea, (he was muttering about the many who looked unavailable then). As he wasn't, I wondered if Adel was a sicko note again.
 
QPR Oslo said:
Why wasn't he Saturday then, SWP was!. I heard Harry say if Adel trained as hard that day (Thursday I believe) as he had done all week, maybe he would be in the squad for Chelsea, (he was muttering about the many who looked unavailable then). As he wasn't, I wondered if Adel was a sicko note again.
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Ozzie, it takes more than a couple of days to go from fat to fit!

If he keeps training hard this week then he might be up for 20 minutes or so on Saturday evening. If he's not on the bench against City then we'll know he's not been working on his fitness.
 
KPDHoopster said:
I thought that was a touch of sarcasm from Col ????
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It wasn't mate.

Harry has said that Taarabt has knuckled down. If that continues I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the squad against City.

I agree with Stroller. With the 5.30pm KO and our lot having been on the juice all afternoon, the ground will be absolutely rocking. I really fancy us to turn them over, or at least get a point. (The lad thinks I'm insane!)
 
Swords Hoopster. said:
Ozzie, it takes more than a couple of days to go from fat to fit!

If he keeps training hard this week then he might be up for 20 minutes or so on Saturday evening. If he's not on the bench against City then we'll know he's not been working on his fitness.
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Or Harry isn't going to pick him whatever!
 
rangercol said:
Beth, I agree with you. Dunne is playing better than Rio and over the last couple of games he seems to have rolled back the years. I don't know if he can keep that up, but he should definitely start ahead of Rio, regardless of the 3 match ban.

That is a separate point to me thinking that Rio is still a better player than many on here believe him to be. I suspect that, when he gets the chance, he may prove a few wrong. Time will tell.
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I have never really been a huge Dunne fan - yet yesterday I was really screaming for him - he beat Costa to the ball on a 1:1 challenge at least twice - did some really excellent well timed tackled. No comparison to Rio performances this year.
 
YappyR said:
One thing we have to admit to is that the problem isn't FITNESS - we're just SLOW. We can't keep up with the pace of the top teams. Yun played nervous, far too panicky, in awe of Chelsea and nearly got ran out of the park. But for being slow, Sandro, Isla, Caulker and Henry even - they're at full stretch much too often. They played OK as a unit most of the game squeezing them out of the middle as a pack, but too slow as individuals. It was amazing to see Dunne keep up with Costa, but then again Costa's not too fast, he's just big and holds it up well.

The Vargas-Isla combo needs to improve. Vargas is about the only one deadly quick. Isla needs to learn to be more confident on the ball and pick better passes.
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Good points - I thought so much of yesterday and vs Villa was about confidence - crazy that Yun needs games to build confidence - not fitness and this has been denied him,
 
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