Off Topic Captain Hindsight to replace Dr Death

[Angelicnumber16]

No vote is ever wasted Angelic, it just determines the outcome!

I watched PMQ's today, and it was quite refreshing to see how attitudes are panning out and how various factions conduct themselves. KS is far from perfect and his tags of "hindsight" / Mr Uturn / etc really do raise their heads to regularly.

Will need to watch it again as one Comment by RS had my attention .. need the correct wording to repeat it! it is at about the end of the exchange "getting on with the longterm.......! and that is the key. dont knee jerk it plan it abnd get on with it.

I have/was never / favourable to RS! But you tweaked a thought with your comment ....."We need strong leadership

" Actually, if strong leadership was the only criteria to place a vote then maybe the answer would not be that hard![/QUOTE]

I'm no fan of Macron, but after recent killings of innocents in France by Islamic fundamentalists, they are apparently considering deporting all such troublemakers without the need for the blessing from the ECHR in Strasbourg, or internal French lawyers.
How refreshing it would be to have that same attitude here, considering how long it took us to actually get rid of the hate preacher Abu Hamza, and considering that Brexit should have meant we were allowed to proactively ensure the safety of innocent citizens and deport those with serious criminal records or who have been found guilty of plotting or carrying out terrorist offences.

 

[realred1952]

How refreshing it would be to have that same attitude here, considering how long it took us to actually get rid of the hate preacher Abu Hamza, and considering that Brexit should have meant we were allowed to proactively ensure the safety of innocent citizens and deport those with serious criminal records or who have been found guilty of plotting or carrying out terrorist offences.

we are bound by so many rules and regulations and do gooders who would' nt step in and "put up" in their homes so called asylum seekers, but would rather give them a bag of freebies and hope they get get a nice fresh pair of sheets on their beds whilst having a full english breakfast at the expense of the tax payer!

conversation .. hence a Q ................... ref the bed bug epidemic [ rife in France and Europe catching on here! ] when will the first housed in a hotel illegal sue for being bitten by a bed bug!

 

[Cliftonville]

The Torie are saying they are fiscally responsible. So after being asked how labours priorities them economic ones will be different to the Tories you cant explain how so you didn't know? If you looked at Starmer pledges the ones he did have which were different to Tories you can see hes rolled back to a position very close to the Tories. If you read Labour lists where labours plans are being revealed the five point plan after the recent conference you can see labour being very close to the Tories on what Labour calls fiscal stability. Starmers been criticised for being right wing and economically he is. Plans to magic up investment from increasing gdp past other past are magic make believe the UK doesnt get that growth let alone from having no plan to anything different to the last twenty years economically to magic up that what would have to be record economic growth!!!!.

Starmer will be continuity Sunak economically.

As a working class Labour voter I cannot see where Labour will deal with growing inequality. I can see how they can make things worse.

Socially is where there will be change. Labour will get a thumping majority, and this will mean Labour will drive through its environmental policies like ULEZ, we will get ecological taxes and this green agenda will punish working class people.

 

[Angelicnumber16]

What the country needs is a party of adults and trend buckers that don’t act like sheep in terms of Net Zero, immigration, Climate change, inner city transport, wokeness, anti Semitism and law and order

The Tories and Labour are not that party

 

[oneforthebristolcity]

What the country needs is a party of adults and trend buckets that don’t act like sheep in terms of Net Zero, immigration, Climate change, inner city transport, wokeness, anti Semitism and law and order

The Tories and Labour are not that party

Too many “look at me do gooders” for such a party to exist mate.. It will never happen and will only get worse..

 

[Angelicnumber16]

Yeah, I know......

 

[realred1952]

What the country needs is a party of adults and trend buckets that don’t act like sheep in terms of Net Zero, immigration, Climate change, inner city transport, wokeness, anti Semitism and law and order

A question, genuinely interested.


Angelic on the the top 7 things you believe a new .gov should address ....... [ in no particular order ]
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[realred1952]

Have a read

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ence-reeves-bank-england-carney-b2426585.html

Ms Reeves, a former Bank of England economist, is hoping to become the country's first female chancellor if Labour wins the next general election.

she did a very good job with her new book " the women who made modern economics" of collating all the powerful stuff people have achieved and written!! [ plagiarism ] Hopefully she will make a nice big donation to WICKIPEDIA! .. I send a tenner a year! wonder how many on here contribute?

PS ........... One has to wonder did CARNY read it before someone [ well a few actually ] noted the word for word passage for passage that the main points are just plagiarised!

 

[Angelicnumber16]

A question, genuinely interested.


Angelic on the the top 7 things you believe a new .gov should address ....... [ in no particular order ]
1] Immigration - Illegal and legal
2] Growth
3] Climate change agenda and Net zero
4] Wokeism and British culture
5] Law and order
6] Benefits cheats
7] Tax cuts