Off Topic BREXIT

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How will you be voting?

  • Remain

    Votes: 89 46.1%

  • Leave

    Votes: 104 53.9%
  • Total voters
    193
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originallambrettaman said:
Quite possibly, but it doesn't pay the bills.

For me, w. t's most concerning, is that we've come out with absolutely no plan for what happens next. Nobody knows what replacement deal will be done with the EU, which is fair enough, nobody expected we'd be able to find out until we left. But I've not heard anyone say anything at all about any potential new trade deal with anyone else.

We left the EU with promises of increased worldwide trade as a result of being able to negotiate our own trade deals, but nobody has suggested what sort of deals we'll do and who we'll do them with. People also seem to be overlooking the fact that the new trade deal we do with the EU will have restrictions in it that will limit what we can do anyway.

It was quite an achievement getting people to vote leave, when in the end we'll still be sending money to Brussels, we'll still be allowing free movement to large numbers of EU members and we haven't got a single suggestion on what benefits there will actually be.
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But do trade deals have to be difficult? If we want bananas dont we just ring Fiji or wherever and say send us x for y
 
modnrock said:
But do trade deals have to be difficult? If we want bananas dont we just ring Fiji or wherever and say send us x for y
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Buying bananas isn't a trade deal, it's shopping.

Agreeing with Fiji that we'd charge no duty on their bananas would be a trade deal.

But the new free trade deal we do with the EU would probably prevent us from doing such a deal.
 
Wade Wilson said:
Excellent post.

I was more upset by Obadiahs implied response that this result was just one big test for the youth, to see if they can fight like the old generation could.
Which would be an appalling reason to vote leave.


I hope you are right. But right now, the youth is upset. They won't see it as an opportunity gifted by the saviours that are the Brexiteers. In fairness no generation can usually see clearly in the present (apart from the war days). Hindsight usually plays a huge part when it comes to recognition of the previous generation but nevertheless, right now it feels like the older generation finally got their moment to shove it up the establishment and the younger generation will have to deal with whatever is to come all for the sake of rather petty reasoning.

Was this really the only way to go about it? this is certainly no tianamen square moment.
I can understand shaking things up but I'm incredibly upset by how little reversibility this decision has.

I've gained greatly from the EU, so I'm really not an objective representative of the remain camp but I can tell you it has really upset me. More than any remain result would have ever upset any Brexiteers or their lives.

I don't expect many to care though, this was a very selfish referendum.
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Deal with it.
 
modnrock said:
Then it isnt a free trade deal
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Lets shop then why all the dealing? Why does everything mean a trade deal? We dont have EU protection barriers anymore. We dont have to protect French farmers etc. We buy and sell for our benefit. Let EU set tarrifs. If we undercut them tough
 
In fact ....the EU! We havnt had time yet to learn to kow tow to what pleases them! Its a mindset id lose forthwith. Lets power on theres a big world out there and worrying what Belgium thinks etc aint worth a toss
 
originallambrettaman said:
The FTSE 1. Its rallied, but the FTSE 250 is still 7.3% down, resulting in billions being wiped off UK company values.

It's these selective and misleading claims that have marred the campaign and continue to mar the aftermath.
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Check out how much the EU markets lost too and how little they recovered
 
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originallambrettaman said:
The FTSE 100 rallied, but the FTSE 250 is still 7.3% down, resulting in billions being wiped off UK company values.

It's these selective and misleading claims that have marred the campaign and continue to mar the aftermath.
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It was liable to come anyway, it's only really altered the timing. The EU couldn't be allowed to stay as they were, or heaven forbid, get worse.
 
modnrock said:
Check out how much the EU markets lost too and how little they recovered
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Other countries media were offering a variety of reasons on who was affected and what the other factors involved were. It's misleading to lump it all on the vote outcome.
 
Wade Wilson said:
You do realise why that is ? (Why am I even asking, clearly you don't)

Leaving will have a much bigger impact on remain voters than staying would ever have had on Brexiteers .
If anything life would have been the same if we stayed and slightly improved with calls for EU reforms (and a bargaining chip for Cameron)

Instead, Brexiteers have ****ed up the life of quite a few people who perhaps depended on the EU in one way or another. For what? Just to be able to have a go at the establishment . What happened to walking down the street naked? Instead you opted for ****ing over your kids' generation and giving xenophobia around Europe a victory.

well done
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Some of us voted the UK into Europe on terms that appeared to be beneficial for all concerned. We have experienced the results of that vote for over 40 years and have taken a considered decision to vote us out of that arrangement. The fact that you don't like that is unfortunate, but you might consider buckling down to the new situation for the next 40 years and seeing how you might do something better. Or will you just whinge and continue to talk nonsense?
 
I voted in.

But I'm not a ****ing expert. None of us are.

The majority wanted out so that's what we'll do. Older voters are just as entitled to have their view counted as us younger ones are. Some of the reactions from people who voted the same way as me have been ridiculous.

The mouth-frothing over Farage is embarrassing too. It's only because it's Farage. What he actually said was perfectly reasonable. I'm not particularly a fan of his but I don't subscribe to some of the hysteria about certain people that social media tell you you have to despise.

I'm also sick of reading, as counter argument to the immigration one, that unemployed people are all lazy doley bastards. It's just as stupid a stereotype as to say that all Mexicans are lazy or all Muslims are bombers. Except it's somehow allowed if you target the right demographic.
 
originallambrettaman said:
We don't yet know what will happen to the EU going forward.

All we do know for certain, is that we'll no longer be able to play any part in the direction it does take.
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We've already played a big part with the vote. The handling of the exit will play a further part, trading will play a part...
 
PLT said:
I voted in.

But I'm not a ****ing expert. None of us are.

The majority wanted out so that's what we'll do. Older voters are just as entitled to have their view counted as us younger ones are. Some of the reactions from people who voted the same way as me have been ridiculous.

The mouth-frothing over Farage is embarrassing too. It's only because it's Farage. What he actually said was perfectly reasonable. I'm not particularly a fan of his but I don't subscribe to some of the hysteria about certain people that social media tell you you have to despise.

I'm also sick of reading, as counter argument to the immigration one, that unemployed people are all lazy doley bastards. It's just as stupid a stereotype as to say that all Mexicans are lazy or all Muslims are bombers. Except it's somehow allowed if you target the right demographic.
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I think the point about Farage is he wasn't part of the official Leave campaign nor is he an MP, so why was he popping up on tv everywhere?
 
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