Match Day Thread Bournemouth v Newcastle

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JesusChrist Allmighty said:
Newcastle really need to get something Today and probably a win. It's Arsenal next! If Newcastle win any criticism of selections, rotation and management this week go out the window, and I'll be happy to concede that... I'm desperate to be able to do that.

If Newcastle lose Today the acceptable excuses will be the extra game, the ref, corruption, or simply puffing your chest out and taking it out on someone else who isn't. If anyone questions the selections, tactics, in game management, or the recruitment, they'll be dealt with via the usual insults.

How about instead of people resorting to ad hominem, we actually consider some of the concerns raised following defeats. Thinking everything is great and ignoring all apparent problems doesn't make you big and tough. If anything you're running away from the things you don't want to be confronted with and becoming annoyed with the people who aren't... They're bedwetters, they're negative, they need their medication, they're saying it too many times! It's all an escape from debating the points being raised... It's as I say ad hominem.

Howay the lads... Please can we win a game vs Bournemouth.
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Are you going for a record this weekend?
 
JesusChrist Allmighty said:
Newcastle really need to get something Today and probably a win. It's Arsenal next! If Newcastle win any criticism of selections, rotation and management this week go out the window, and I'll be happy to concede that... I'm desperate to be able to do that.

If Newcastle lose Today the acceptable excuses will be the extra game, the ref, corruption, or simply puffing your chest out and taking it out on someone else who isn't. If anyone questions the selections, tactics, in game management, or the recruitment, they'll be dealt with via the usual insults.

How about instead of people resorting to ad hominem, we actually consider some of the concerns raised following defeats. Thinking everything is great and ignoring all apparent problems doesn't make you big and tough. If anything you're running away from the things you don't want to be confronted with and becoming annoyed with the people who aren't... They're bedwetters, they're negative, they need their medication, they're saying it too many times! It's all an escape from debating the points being raised... It's as I say ad hominem.

Howay the lads... Please can we win a game vs Bournemouth.
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Would add in that any criticism should be balanced and take into account the full picture and should not be knee jerk histrionics or OTT and extreme.

<cheers>
 
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Rum & Black for 2 said:
Would add in that any criticism should be balanced and take into account the full picture and should not be knee jerk histrionics or OTT and extreme.

<cheers>
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Agree, but the correct way is to debate the issues raised and not just attack the person presenting the issue.

When a debate is lost the loser uses insults as his tool. Socrates

I'm sure we've all done it sadly.
 
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Gangsta Ginola said:
Fair. Balanced. I can take this.

I hope that Gordon plays on the left and not up front. That’s his best position. Playing him up front is a bad choice.
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The only issue is using the term histrionics is ad hominem as so is suggesting the person isn't being fair or balanced, but if we're going to get a rid of the insults and unpleasantries it's worth it.
 
JesusChrist Allmighty said:
Agree, but the correct way is to debate the issues raised and not just attack the person presenting the issue.

When a debate is lost the loser uses insults as his tool. Socrates

I'm sure we've all done it sadly.
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Love it.

And I am going to use this one to the first person who thinks they know better…..

The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing
 
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Gangsta Ginola said:
Love it.

And I am going to use this one to the first person who thinks they know better…..

The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing
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I've grown tired of the insults... I'm also not ignorant enough to think I've not been guilty of the same thing.

It will now become clear who the good guys are because we've made a deal. There's potentially a few wolves in sheep's clothing on here and they'll be revealed in time.
 
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JesusChrist Allmighty said:
I've grown tired of the insults... I'm also not ignorant enough to think I've not been guilty of the same thing.

It will now become clear who the good guys are because we've made a deal. There's potentially a few wolves in sheep's clothing on here and they'll be revealed in time.
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The deal will be maintained. The word “bedwetters” shouldn’t be used now. After this post the first person to use it breaks the truce.

In the meantime do you genuinely think we have a chance today?
 
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