Ben Reeves

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From the reports on CL Reeves played mostly out wide, with Holmes the no. 10. On Saturday Clarke was sometimes out wide sometimes not. I don't know if KR is trying to confuse the opposition, it confuses me.
 
Ben Reeves seems to be getting a universal thumbs down from Charlton fans for his performances so far.

What’s the verdict from those who went yesterday?
 
Unsurprisingly Reeves was targeted by MK Dons players for some pretty rough treatment, and unfortunately he received little protection from the erratic referee.
For those reasons I think it would be a bit unfair to judge his performance yesterday too harshly.

But unless Ben Reeves wishes to allow the hard cases in every opposition team to think he is an easy target, he will need to toughen up a bit and come to the fore in a few games in the near future.
In most of our matches these days there are two or three players (not always the same ones) who stand out, and earn the praise and respect of fans who know extra effort and commitment when they see it. Reeves needs to get his name in among those two or three who get themselves noticed.

I think Charlton fans will warm to him if he shows them what he is supposed to be capable of. But they won't wait forever. A promotion contesting first XI cannot carry a player who isn't strong enough or skillful enough to contribute. We had too many of those last season.
 
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I thought Ben Reeves did fine yesterday. He will score goals for us. Yesterday was one of the worse refereeing displays I have seen. The tackle on Ben Reeves was a red card and the ref bottled it. The assault by Williams on Holmes was a red card and he bottled it. He lost control of the game and it gave MK Dons players carte Blanche to do what they liked. I have watched the penalty incident again and I still don't think it was a penalty. Kashi shouldn't have stuck his leg out but the player got a touch and went down like he had been shot.
According to Wyn Grant the ref, who came from Northampton went home on the MK Dons coach.
 
He appeared to be targeted by the MKD thugs early on. He was the subject of one brutish studs-up tackle which was a red card offence according to the laws of the game. I've certainly seen red cards given for less. After this he didn't see much of the ball, and his substitution was inevitable, he was having no influence on the game at all. He wasn't the player he was against Truro. It's usually Ricky Holmes who gets targeted, but it never affects Holmes' appetite for the ball. I'm not saying Reeves is a poor player, just that he had a poor game.
 
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DickPlumb said:
I have watched the penalty incident again and I still don't think it was a penalty. Kashi shouldn't have stuck his leg out but the player got a touch and went down like he had been shot.
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Of course he did, it was the final minute of the game and he was heading away from goal..... the only chance that MK had of getting a point was a pen and we gave them that opportunity, he was touched and went down.... any of our players would have done exactly the same and we would have applauded them for it. How many pens exactly like that did Kermit get for us.... if you are touched in the box then go over..... we should not have given them the opportunity... simple as!
 
AllHellLetLoose said:
Of course he did, it was the final minute of the game and he was heading away from goal..... the only chance that MK had of getting a point was a pen and we gave them that opportunity, he was touched and went down.... any of our players would have done exactly the same and we would have applauded them for it. How many pens exactly like that did Kermit get for us.... if you are touched in the box then go over..... we should not have given them the opportunity... simple as!
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AllHellLetLoose said:
Of course he did, it was the final minute of the game and he was heading away from goal..... the only chance that MK had of getting a point was a pen and we gave them that opportunity, he was touched and went down.... any of our players would have done exactly the same and we would have applauded them for it. How many pens exactly like that did Kermit get for us.... if you are touched in the box then go over..... we should not have given them the opportunity... simple as!
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Having seen it again, AHLL is right. Kashi was nowhere near the ball, he just planted his foot in front of the MKD player, who was being shepherded away from goal. It was Christmas come early for MKD, and they said thank you very much.
 
AllHellLetLoose said:
How the Manager could say on the OS that Kash got the ball NOT the player is beyond me <confused>
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Because he thinks it's what fans want to hear.

Even if KR had said such a thing in an interview only a few minutes after the game, when he had not had a chance to see the incident again, all it would prove is that he had a poor view and was not being objective.
To state it on a website (once he had surely had ample opportunity to review the event on video) means either Robinson is too convinced that he is right to even bother checking the evidence before he goes on the record, or he thinks that such a denial of reality will endear him even more to the most 'zealous' and blinkered of our supporters - the ITTV kind who will ignore any truth which doesn't favour the team (or the Club).

It's the same mentality which had him talking back in August about "them" (a conspiracy of referees who didn't want Charlton to do well) after we took a red card in two successive games. It's more than a little embarrassing and immature to be honest.
Any manager can be excused for saying something in the heat of a post-match moment that he might later regret. But deliberately distorting the truth is not something that will earn a manager respect among most fans, who might want him to be right but know that he is not.

We aren't all petulant children who can't accept an unwelcome truth - that kind of behaviour is the hallmark of extremists or apologists.
 
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Old Reamsy wasn’t impressed with Kashi yesterday - too negative he reckons.

Anyone would think O.R doesn’t see us play much, nor understand Kashi’s role in the side.
 
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It's understandable if a fan gets a false or distorted impression of how our team plays and the strengths of individual players, if that fan only sees the team play two or three times in a season.
Most fans however would be able to understand that reality, and qualify their opinions with acknowledgment of it.

Reams appears to think he can size up the team for the entire season based on a couple of visits to the Valley, and that his opinions should carry more weight than those of other fans who have seen the team play many more times.
It's a typical attitude of somebody who fancies themselves a 'leader' among others. His antagonism towards Rick Everitt is another example of this attitude.

Not all of us agree with what RE says. Some of us don't like him at all.
But I doubt any of us thinks it's big or brave to shout abuse at Everitt in the street, or encourage others to assault him.
True leadership does not have to puff out its chest and brag about intimidating people.


Also, as Elfs has pointed out, Reams flip-flops all the time.
If Charlton defeat Rochdale on Tuesday night he'll be praising the genius of RD and KM again.
 
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