Beefy's Corner - The Off-Topic Chat Thread

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- Doing The Lambert Walk said:
Just seen online that after yesterday's U21 game, Luke had a photo with a Saints fan who travelled to the game.

Anyway, today he's found and tweeted this fan asking if they'd like his England shirt.

They said he shouldn't give it away as its a debut shirt, but he says he wore two so they can have the other one.

Not the sharpest cookie but he seems to appreciate the supporters.
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He's certainly a good lad, but what exactly is a sharp cookie?<laugh>
 
Just found a DVD of Saints U14 squad from 2010 whilst moving out. I'll see if I can spot any of the current bunch later.
 
Beefy said:
His work paid 8 weeks, then tried sacking him after he was off loads due to treatment.
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When my father got cancer he was about to retire - his (major multinational German) company kept trying to persuade him to stay on as they'd worked out that they'd have to pay out less were he to die in service than under a retirement plan (under German law you tend to get about 4 weeks death in service, rather than the standard 3-4 years in British law).

Now that was callous......
 
Le Tissier's Laces said:
When my father got cancer he was about to retire - his (major multinational German) company kept trying to persuade him to stay on as they'd worked out that they'd have to pay out less were he to die in service than under a retirement plan (under German law you tend to get about 4 weeks death in service, rather than the standard 3-4 years in British law).
Now that was callous......
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The twats! What did he do?
 
Beefy said:
The twats! What did he do?
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Unfortunately he died, all part of the masterplan of the company it would seem, so my mother only got the 4 weeks in service plus his company car "as a show of generosity". He'd worked for the company for 32 years! The representative that they sent to the funeral actually said someone during the wake at the house "it seems a nice house, she'll be okay".......

Yeah.....nice bunch :)
 
Le Tissier's Laces said:
Unfortunately he died, all part of the masterplan of the company it would seem, so my mother only got the 4 weeks in service plus his company car "as a show of generosity". He'd worked for the company for 32 years! The representative that they sent to the funeral actually said someone during the wake at the house "it seems a nice house, she'll be okay".......

Yeah.....nice bunch :)
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Sorry to hear that. Just shows how most big companies think these days.
 
fran-MLs little camera said:
Eric Abidal who has just left Barcelona said the club didn't pay him whilst he was off with liver cancer. Perhaps that is common in football, but seems very harsh to me. Footballers are rich but like most people probably live near their income...would be very difficult to unexpectedly lose your income whilst seriously ill.
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There was a case just a few years ago where a Real Madrid player (and Spain international) Ruben de la Red collapsed during a game due to a heart condition. Real Madrid tried to declare that it was a "common condition", thereby allowing them to annul his contract and entitling him to just £1000 a month in disability benefit, as opposed to paying off the rest of it. I imagine there are a few more cases like this which are banging about.
 
tomw19 said:
Second degree murder! Really? That takes life imprisonment off the table. How is that not first degree murder? 40 years in prison not nearly enough. At least the one who plead not guilty won't get out of prison, should she be found guilty.
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Life without parole for minors is no longer an option; that disappeared with the USSC ruling in Miller v. Alabama last year.

Thus, the decision is largely to ensure conviction; overcharging leads to juries coming up with new and novel interpretations of 'reasonable doubt', and second-degree murder is a hell of a lot easier to prove because you don't need to convince the jury that it was premeditated, and the penalty isn't a whole helluva lot different.
 
Schad said:
Life without parole for minors is no longer an option; that disappeared with the USSC ruling in Miller v. Alabama last year.

Thus, the decision is largely to ensure conviction; overcharging leads to juries coming up with new and novel interpretations of 'reasonable doubt', and second-degree murder is a hell of a lot easier to prove because you don't need to convince the jury that it was premeditated, and the penalty isn't a whole helluva lot different.
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Minors can still get life without parole: "Under the Supreme Court's ruling, minors can still get life without parole sentences &#8212; just not automatically after a conviction; instead a judge will need to decide, taking into account the minor's youth."
 
tomw19 said:
Minors can still get life without parole: "Under the Supreme Court's ruling, minors can still get life without parole sentences &#8212; just not automatically after a conviction; instead a judge will need to decide, taking into account the minor's youth."
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After which there have been a handful of lower-court rulings that have invalidated it entirely. Not in WVa to the best of my knowledge but it's in a state of flux...there aren't many countries that do allow it, and it's a fairly safe bet that it won't be in place in the theoretical timeframe in which these two would be up for release. There's no reason to risk the jury getting antsy about a life sentence for a couple doe-eyed (white) sociopaths when 40 years does much the same thing.
 
TheSecondStain said:
Am I the only one who read the newspaper article and couldn't help noticing that the victim's family seemed more bothered about sitting through a murder trial of their own daughter, rather than obtaining some sort of justice for her?
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Not really I can see their point. I just got confused which girl was which. They didn't really highlight it well.
 
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