Match Day Thread Barnsley v QPR

[Didley Squat]

Good point rescued but slipping down table.
Afraid I'm not looking forward to Friday.

Don't be concerned, we are and will always be for the foreseeable future, a mid-table team.

 

[QPRski]

For the 2nd game in a row we seemed better when Smith came on. Again he wasn't great, but he seems to provide a point of attack for us without just punting it up to him, and draws in the opposition defenders giving us more space.

Smith is certainly not a Charlie Austin. But if we play with wide men (width) who do actually sometimes put in a good cross, then he is much bigger threat than smaller men such as Washington and Mackie.

I do believe that currently we are more effective offensively with big men upfront. Take a look at the Millwall, Burton and also yesterday’s match.

 

[QPRski]

Smith is certainly not a Charlie Austin. But if we play with wide men (width) who do actually sometimes put in a good cross, then he is much bigger threat than smaller men such as Washington and Mackie.

I do believe that currently we are more effective offensively with big men upfront. Take a look at Millwall, Burton and yesterday’s match.

However, if Ollie’s tactics are to tire the opposition with fast but smaller players before bringing on the big men, then currently it is not working.

This could because we currently have a make shift defense and we go behind.

Let's wait for the team against Fulham.

 

[bobmid]

It's like we set up away from home for a draw all the time. It's so frustrating , selection consistency is what will be our downfall. Hollow constantly tinkers when no tinkering is needed. I sometimes wonder if he actually thinks he is outsmarting opposition managers. Regardless of home or away, we should always field our strongest 11 available .

 

[Lawrence Jacoby]

A couple of frustrating results that’s all we have a team that can match anyone in this division although Villa could run away with this league imo
They are getting stronger and stronger
We have just hit a flat spot but our midfield is looking the best in the division imo
Can’t fault any of them just need a bit more class maybe on our finishing as the effort is there for the full 90

 

[Lawrence Jacoby]

Holloway currently stands 9/10 in my book

 

[daverangers]

A couple of frustrating results that’s all we have a team that can match anyone in this division although Villa could run away with this league imo
They are getting stronger and stronger
We have just hit a flat spot but our midfield is looking the best in the division imo
Can’t fault any of them just need a bit more class maybe on our finishing as the effort is there for the full 90

Agree that our midfield looked very solid last night, good mix of defensive/attacking and creative/solid. Add a natural finished into the equation and it could get exciting. Either we need to go out and buy one, but that'll be costly, or hope one of Smith, Sylla, Mackie, Lua Lua, Washington or Osayi-Samuel hit some decent form.

 

[West London Willy]

It's like we set up away from home for a draw all the time. It's so frustrating , selection consistency is what will be our downfall. Hollow constantly tinkers when no tinkering is needed. I sometimes wonder if he actually thinks he is outsmarting opposition managers. Regardless of home or away, we should always field our strongest 11 available .

Within reason. Every other team sets up differently home and away, and if we didn't we'd soon get very easy to predict. Changing tactics is a part of keeping the opposition guessing.

 

[Wherever]

I still worry where the goals are coming from

 

[qprbeth]

I still worry where the goals are coming from

So do I.....
From what I understand from yesterday...theirs was a good goal.........and then we came back into it.We were all over them 2nd half and we had numerous chances, which we failed to put away.
It then takes an excellent shot from Freeman to get the draw.

We need a striker with confidence....However I can understand the dilemma of what Ollie is trying to do.
He needs Conor and Mackie to harry the oppos defence, but he also needs Smith to be at the end of the crosses

I am beginning to feel that Ollie is soon going have to take a risk of giving a mixed combination a good run at this in an attempt to produce confidence and a straightforward system.
Connor to run, harry and pester and Smith to act as a target man. It would be ideal if we did have a more mobile target man (but that is not Sylla).

Centre forwards are very hard and expensive to come by...wish the BFG had settled better

 

[ELLERS]

I am not going to knock 'Hollow' as he is a limited manager and I think this season he has over achieved. Burton and Barnsley draws are what I expected tbh (actually I thought we would lose to Barnsley). As long as we stay up he has done a good job. I would take 4th from bottom now.

 

[West London Willy]

So do I.....
From what I understand from yesterday...theirs was a good goal.........and then we came back into it.We were all over them 2nd half and we had numerous chances, which we failed to put away.
It then takes an excellent shot from Freeman to get the draw.

We need a striker with confidence....However I can understand the dilemma of what Ollie is trying to do.
He needs Conor and Mackie to harry the oppos defence, but he also needs Smith to be at the end of the crosses

I am beginning to feel that Ollie is soon going have to take a risk of giving a mixed combination a good run at this in an attempt to produce confidence and a straightforward system.
Connor to run, harry and pester and Smith to act as a target man. It would be ideal if we did have a more mobile target man (but that is not Sylla).

Centre forwards are very hard and expensive to come by...wish the BFG had settled better

From what I have seen, their goal was a cracker (as was ours, to be fair) and aside from that, there were few clear chances aside from a few long range efforts. Defences appeared to be on top.

We're not out of september yet, so it's a little early to be talking about what people would 'settle for'....

 

[Lawrence Jacoby]

I would agree with Willy
QPR actually have a defence in this team and it’s gettung better and better
Wondergoal from Barnsley no one was stopping that and we dominated the game from 40 minutes to the 94th away from home
Our midfield is as good as any ones even though the performance of Pavel last night was slightly questionable there will be more days like this
What makes me sad on this forum is the fickleness of opinions
FFS look we have no Redknapp we have QPR people running the team affairs now and have a strong championship team

We are not Real Madrid
We are not even ready for the premier league
We were the laughing stock of London

Let’s recover first before we start worrying about things out of our control This current team is working hard we owe them support

Can you do me a kindness?

No More

No more bullshit from anyone and that includes me

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

I still worry where the goals are coming from

On paper we should be concerned about a lack of goals but 13 teams have scored fewer than us.

 

[GroveRanger]

It is encouraging to see the team keep up the pressure for so long and to nick a goal in the last minutes and from the match reports it was all QPR regarding chances. Better a point than nothing but it is about time we got back into winning ways.

 

[Eamon Holmes]

One of the worst 1st halves i have witnessed in a very long time. Feel for Osayi-Samuel as all he had to work on was bidwell hoofing it up the line for him to chase in vain and then gets taken off at http. Mackie is not a championship player, he has no concept of the game other than running around and giving 100% which is not enough if you want to do anything in this league, and if you want to develop a young player like Osayi-Samuel you cannot play Mackie. When Connor came on we were a different team as he is actually a decent footballer so can read the game around him thus linking in other players that Mackie is uncapable of. Wszolek obviously had his Poland call up on his mind as his passing was poor his crossing even worse and his capacity to beat the final man totally out the window and missed an absolute sitter, he was a mile off the pace.. He should have been hauled off at half time. Smith is an absolute joke. Why not sign up any Sunday league player who is tall fat and incapable of moving, he should of had a hat trick in the time that he was on. Robinson looked a natural, Scowen, Luongo, Freeman Washington are all spot on for this league, even Caulker looked decent against an awful team. Ollie has got to stop making excuses pick his best 11 from the start regardless of the opposition and how they may or may not set up, otherwise we are in for another very poor season. Get rid of average pros like Mackie, Baptiste, Smith and Bidwell as we will never progress with them in our team drop people who don't give a crap, which in tonight's performance is Wszolek, develop Wheeler, Samuel, Furlong, but play them alongside decent players who have a forward thinking philosophic approach and we might get somewhere. We have actually good some decent players, play them all and cover the rest of the team with potential

Easy, isn't it.

 

[awjm]

On paper we should be concerned about a lack of goals but 13 teams have scored fewer than us.

I know it sounds funny but I think we'd probably be more confident going forward if we had a consistent, fit and quality defence. Alas, we do not.
I feel more hopeful now that Luongo is back (not to score himself but to get the ball rolling). I just wish we would try starting with the other two strikers or maybe even give Lua Lua or Nbakoto a chance up front.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

I know it sounds funny but I think we'd probably be more confident going forward if we had a consistent, fit and quality defence. Alas, we do not.
I feel more hopeful now that Luongo is back (not to score himself but to get the ball rolling). I just wish we would try starting with the other two strikers or maybe even give Lua Lua or Nbakoto a chance up front.

Every time I've seen Ngbakoto in the flesh he's been dreadful. Lua Lua I can take or leave especially now we've got Wheeler and Bright. None of them give us a bit of everything in a striker we'd want. Sylla should offer that but he's bloody lazy at times.

It's a tricky one for Holloway. He wants to play 4-3-3 (451 if you want to call it that) but none of our strikers are honestly up to it consistently. I wouldn't be averse to trying Sylla there.

 

[awjm]

Every time I've seen Ngbakoto in the flesh he's been dreadful. Lua Lua I can take or leave especially now we've got Wheeler and Bright. None of them give us a bit of everything in a striker we'd want. Sylla should offer that but he's bloody lazy at times.

It's a tricky one for Holloway. He wants to play 4-3-3 (451 if you want to call it that) but none of our strikers are honestly up to it consistently. I wouldn't be averse to trying Sylla there.

Which is why I think we should have two strikers as standard. I don't mind trying the three defenders thing but we must have two strikers, in my opinion.

About Lua Lua and Nbakoto: let me ask you one thing... have you seen either of them play in their preferred position?

 

[QPR Oslo]

Which is why I think we should have two strikers as standard. I don't mind trying the three defenders thing but we must have two strikers, in my opinion.

About Lua Lua and Nbakoto: let me ask you one thing... have you seen either of them play in their preferred position?

Lua Lua did well in the short time he got out wide left last night.