Interesting read....
http://supportersnotcustomers.com/2014/04/09/what-killed-english-football-culture/
http://supportersnotcustomers.com/2014/04/09/what-killed-english-football-culture/
Atmosphere at Grounds
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Borussia fans protesting by staying silent for 12 minutes and 12 seconds....the silence is a typical matchday at St James
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_WAuDPW0ms#t=28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_WAuDPW0ms#t=28
Been saying this for yonks. We sold out our football a long time ago. The quality of football, atmosphere, national team, connection with fans has all suffered as a result.
I'm too old to stand but I think there should be standing area's. I loved standing when younger. The camaraderie,banter was brilliant.
I love standing.
Rail seating like they have in Germany is perfectly safe. I understand why people oppose the re-introduction of standing areas. But grounds and technology now make a repeat of Hillsborough almost negligible.
Imagine the atmosphere at St James if people could stand behind the goals at both the Leazes End and Gallowgate. Imagine if they went further and turned the entire Gallowgate or Leazes End into standing areas. How intimidating would the noise be? No need to expand the ground capacity [if ever needed] and ticket prices would come down.
Rail seating like they have in Germany is perfectly safe. I understand why people oppose the re-introduction of standing areas. But grounds and technology now make a repeat of Hillsborough almost negligible.
Imagine the atmosphere at St James if people could stand behind the goals at both the Leazes End and Gallowgate. Imagine if they went further and turned the entire Gallowgate or Leazes End into standing areas. How intimidating would the noise be? No need to expand the ground capacity [if ever needed] and ticket prices would come down.
Everyone says, as if it were an indisputable truth, that attendances don't really matter, as they constitute only about 25-30% of income for clubs. However, if teams in the PL started playing games in front of empty stadia, you would soon see football's global appeal plummet.
Football is still the greatest of all sports, but the modern version of it, at least at the 'top level', is vacuous rubbish, dominated by a few posh teams and highly structured comments from the so-called 'pundits'.
I long for the days when I was with a large crowd, finishing about 50 yards from where I started, with all the pushing.
Football is still the greatest of all sports, but the modern version of it, at least at the 'top level', is vacuous rubbish, dominated by a few posh teams and highly structured comments from the so-called 'pundits'.
I long for the days when I was with a large crowd, finishing about 50 yards from where I started, with all the pushing.
thatcher ,,and her government .. were pure fookin evil ... I hope they rot in hell ...soz for the rant ..
The atmosphere at St James' is an embarrassment most of the time. There were a handful of instances, in all the time I held a season ticket, where I actually thought there were more than 200 supporters, never-mind 50,000 in the stadium. Those were:
1. The game we were awarded the Championship trophy
2. When we beat Man Utd 3-0.
3. When we beat Sunderland 5-1.
4. When we beat Liverpool 2-0.
5. When Man City beat us 3-1. At 0-0, and then 2-1 the game was utterly electric in terms of atmosphere. The whistling and howling while City had possession almost gave me a headache.
6. Newcastle 4-4 Arsenal
Near enough every other game I'd say I'm ashamed by the vast majority of the supporters, but I go to games for the atmosphere, so others won't agree. Without level 7, it's getting worse and worse. The Gallowgate corner is the only chanting area now, and that's sporadic at best.
1. The game we were awarded the Championship trophy
2. When we beat Man Utd 3-0.
3. When we beat Sunderland 5-1.
4. When we beat Liverpool 2-0.
5. When Man City beat us 3-1. At 0-0, and then 2-1 the game was utterly electric in terms of atmosphere. The whistling and howling while City had possession almost gave me a headache.
6. Newcastle 4-4 Arsenal
Near enough every other game I'd say I'm ashamed by the vast majority of the supporters, but I go to games for the atmosphere, so others won't agree. Without level 7, it's getting worse and worse. The Gallowgate corner is the only chanting area now, and that's sporadic at best.
That's why I prefer away games - At least our travelling support can be loud.
Far too many people just sit in silence at home games. It actually is embarrassing. I sit in the lower Leazes behind the goal - If I even start singing I get people looking at me like i'm sort of weirdo while they just sit there like robots. For too many people nowadays it's a day out like a visit to the cinema rather than going to a football game.
We may get massive crowds at home but we don't have fantastic support. The same can be said about any number of grounds in the Premier League.
Exactly right
If I was chairman, I'd revoke season tickets for people who don't sing. It'd be in the contract, so you'd lose your seat and your money. People are sheep, and at the moment they're led by the tutting, judgemental, and class-obsessed. They need a good kicking in the right direction #violentshepherd
The campaign can only start with what we have, so I implore anybody reading this to join in with all the chants, and if nobody in your section is pulling the finger out, start some. It's no excuse to say "the players don't play so we don't sing", bullshit. You want to be part of the best fans in the world? Sing or f*** off, it's that simple. You are not entitled to a seat because you have the money, you are entitled to a seat if you SUPPORT the team.
Anybody reading this who doesn't join in with chants, f*** off, we don't want you at games. No joke, cancel your ST, and f*** off. You aren't a Toon supporter, you're a boring neutral football WATCHER. Swiping your card at the box-office is not a tie to the traditions, you're a nothing. Sit in your dull silence at home and watch the game please.
Or being passed down to the touchline over the heads of the people in front.
How I wish I could take you back to a Newcastle- Sunderland derby of yesteryear, before all of this idiotic hatred reared its ugly head , one of the best parts was having a drink with them after the game and explaining how much better Sunderland were, even then they were difficult to convince
Couldn't agree more with this thread! From my first game as an 8 year old over 20 years ago, that roar in our stadium was the most intoxicating sound I'd ever heard. My current location and personal circumstances mean I can only get to a handful of games a season, but in my experience the place is like a morgue these days. When my little lad is old enough his first football experience will no doubt be at the toon, but it's a crying shame that to show him a REAL st James atmosphere I'll have to use a DVD player!!!
Sadly most of the young kids today think it is a real atmosphere. They'll never experience the noise that David Kelly described in 1992 when he scored one of the most important goals in our history against Portsmouth. I'd heard some loud support before but the noise when that went in was something else. Not a patch today.
Remember when one of the greats Danny Blanchflower played at Roker Park and later described the famous Roker Roar " Frightening in its intensity "
He was referring to the hundreds of plates of soggy cheesy chips flying down to the pitch.
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