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[PNkt]

stupid question alert - is Tony Carson related to Willie?

Not 100% sure as it could be coincidence, but Willie does have a son called Anthony. Tony Carson makes no mention of a connection on his website, but that may be deliberate.

 

[NassauBoard]

Not 100% sure as it could be coincidence, but Willie does have a son called Anthony. Tony Carson makes no mention of a connection on his website, but that may be deliberate.

It would make sense as we’ve got a daughter of Catarina who was in training with Tony.

 

[Cyclonic]

Willie Carson's son Anthony trains at Newmarket. Willie also has a grandson, William Carson who's a jockey and a bit of a wild child.

 

[Cyclonic]

The Free Library mentions the name "Tony" as Willie's son.

There's also another grandson called Graham who rides.

 

[NassauBoard]

The Free Library mentions the name "Tony" as Willie's son.

There's also another grandson called Graham who rides.

Yeah I’ve just found an article about one of the horses Willie owned and it states it’s trained by his son.
Thanks Cyc and Pnkt

 

[Bustino74]

I’ve got my 2020 copy of the Return of Mares now so do yell if you want any stats or specific checks.

You could be asking the wrong question in my case. I usually get it but have decided to go every second year.

 

[PNkt]

You could be asking the wrong question in my case. I usually get it but have decided to go every second year.

More than happy to help out, I’ve got it at home with me.

 

[Bustino74]

More than happy to help out, I’ve got it at home with me.

Well here's the first lot

2020 Issue and 2020 Matings

Momentary
Daphne
Daring Aim
Hypoteneuse
Golden Stream
Pure Fantasy
Aurore
Sequence
Diploma
Super Sleuth
Brief Visit

Many Thanks

 

[PNkt]

Momentary - no records
Daphne - no issue. Covered by Dubawi
Daring Aim - no records
Hypoteneuse - no issue. Covered by Zoustar
Golden Stream - no records (found a filly by Dubawi born in France so guessing she’s over there)
Pure Fantasy - no records (Found a filly by Australia born in France so guessing she is there)
Aurore - no records (think she’s in USA as I can find a foal by Collected searching online)
Sequence - no issue. Covered by Ulysses
Diploma- no issue. Covered by Frankel
Super Sleuth - no records
Brief Visit - no issue. Covered by Territories

 

[Bustino74]

Momentary - no records
Daphne - no issue. Covered by Dubawi
Daring Aim - no records
Hypoteneuse - no issue. Covered by Zoustar
Golden Stream - no records (found a filly by Dubawi born in France so guessing she’s over there)
Pure Fantasy - no records (Found a filly by Australia born in France so guessing she is there)
Aurore - no records (think she’s in USA as I can find a foal by Collected searching online)
Sequence - no issue. Covered by Ulysses
Diploma- no issue. Covered by Frankel
Super Sleuth - no records
Brief Visit - no issue. Covered by Territories

Thanks so much for all that, that's really helpful. Other than RoM I can use the GBBR website, but of course that only lists GB issue and fillies. Hence your comments on French foals is really helpful. For some reason the BCup site seems late in registering foals this year. Yes there's an Aurore (US) as well as Aurore(GB).

The Queen's advisers still persist in going for stamina when it's speed her mares need.

Thanks again. I've got more but I'll wait a few days.

 

[PNkt]

I use the France Galop site to check on possible French foals.

if you search the dams name it defaults to her race record but if you click on Elevage it will show any registered produce.

 

[Bustino74]

At your leisure Princess. Thank you for all your kind help

2020 Matings

Set to Music
Humdrum
Kinematic
Nathra
Memory
Good Hope
Pack Together
Medley
Light Music
Sweet Idea
Estimate
Make Fast
Key Point
Queen’s Prize
Tidal Stream
Silver Mirage
Sightseeing
Free Verse
Fiery Sunset
Starry (is it the Queen's)
Craftiness
Shama
Shimmering Light
Desert Breeze
Refrain (is it the Queen’s)
Magnetic Charm
Poetic Gift (is it the Queen’s)
Social Media
Cut Short
Brevity
Sparring Queen

 

[PNkt]

No problem, I’m off work today so will have a look between stopping my 3yo trashing the house!

 

[PNkt]

Set to Music - filly by Le Havre. Covered by Galileo
Humdrum - no records
Kinematic - colt by Recorder. Covered by Cable Bay
Nathra - filly by Galileo. Covered by Galileo
Memory - filly by Dubawi. Covered by both Shamardal and Night of Thunder
Good Hope - filly by Cable Bay. Covered by both Camelot and Saxon Warrior
Pack Together - colt by Churchill. Covered by Land Force
Medley - colt by Ribchester. Covered by Iffraaj
Light Music - filly by Frankel. No covering (foal born 29 April so may have rested her rather than late cover)
Sweet Idea - Filly by Dubawi. Covered by Kingman
Estimate - Filly by Siyouni. Covered by Sea the Stars
Make Fast - filly by Recorder. Covered by Zoffany
Key Point - filly by Muhaarar. Covered by Kingman
Queen’s Prize - colt by Lope decVega. Covered by Night of Thunder
Tidal Stream - no produce. Covered by Land Force
Silver Mirage - filly by Iffraaj. Covered by Land Force
Sightseeing - filly by Recorder. No covering (listed as owned by John Troy)
Free Verse - colt by Night of Thunder. Covered by Ribchester
Fiery Sunset - colt by Almanzor. Covered by Fastnet Rock
Starry (is it the Queen's) - no records
Craftiness - colt by Recorder. Covered by Cracksman
Shama - filly by Dubawi. Covered by Dubawi
Shimmering Light - filly by Highland Reel. Covered by Mastercraftsman
Desert Breeze - colt by Sea the Stars. Covered by Sea the Stars
Refrain (is it the Queen’s) - no records
Magnetic Charm - no produce. Covered by Dubawi
Poetic Gift (is it the Queen’s) - no records
Social Media - colt by Nathaniel. Covered by Zoustar
Cut Short - filly by Oasis Dream. Covered by Advertise
Brevity - colt by Zoustar. Covered by Too Darn Hot
Sparring Queen - no produce. Covered by Iffraaj

 

[Bustino74]

Crikey that's fantastic pN. I was expecting it in a couple of weeks!

Well, they've used some faster sires but surprise. surprise they're Highclere sires.Those 3 I queried are Royal horses I'm not sure if she sold or died.
Hope Cliveden have some luck with their foalings next year.
Can't thank you enough.

 

[PNkt]

Crikey that's fantastic pN. I was expecting it in a couple of weeks!

Well, they've used some faster sires but surprise. surprise they're Highclere sires.Those 3 I queried are Royal horses I'm not sure if she sold or died.
Hope Cliveden have some luck with their foalings next year.
Can't thank you enough.

Yes I did raise my eyebrows at the number of Cable Bay and Land Force matings. How convenient that Her Majesty has mares whose most compatible mating turned out to be sires stood by her racing manager!

That said I actually like Cable Bay a lot and think he’s pretty good value.

 

[PNkt]

I’d also take a guess that the major name coverings are freebies/foal shares. Can’t imagine it would go down well if the general public knew HM was splashing €650,000 a time on 3 Galileo matings, not to mention the Dubawi/Frankel/Kingman covers!

 

[Bustino74]

Yes I did raise my eyebrows at the number of Cable Bay and Land Force matings. How convenient that Her Majesty has mares whose most compatible mating turned out to be sires stood by her racing manager!

That said I actually like Cable Bay a lot and think he’s pretty good value.

But is he potent? In the last two RoMs he had a whole pile of double coverings. It looked as if he was firing too many blanks. Don’t know how many foals he had this year but he had poor 2018 and 2019 figures.

 

[Bustino74]

I’d also take a guess that the major name coverings are freebies/foal shares. Can’t imagine it would go down well if the general public knew HM was splashing €650,000 a time on 3 Galileo matings, not to mention the Dubawi/Frankel/Kingman covers!

I guess the deal is that if there’s a colt who becomes worth standing then Coolmore, Godolphim etc. have the major share.
Don’t think the State pays her racing costs,

 

[Cyclonic]

I doubt that the state pays as well.