Off Topic Are parents to blame

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Surely the important aspect here is whether the child was loved. There are a lot of unwanted children in care homes from hetrosexual parents.


This raises a rather interesting issue, that isn't often considered in discussions.

As you rightly say there are lots of unwanted kids from hetro couples, yet the process of adoption is one where other hetrosexual couples are turned down for adoption because it is judged something isn't quite conducive to the good if the childs mental or physical well being

Some of this is now ignored for homosexuality couples as it's not PC, but it was felt that it wasn't good for the child to be in that environment. One reason why it's younger children/babies
 
Sorry . You keep moving the goal posts ref my point . Chat again on another thread .

But to fully understand you have to move the goal posts, it's called education.

Don't get bogged down due to two parents being the same sex. In the same way i noted you had moved my conversation from same sex females to same sex males!

But was good debating with you <ok>
 
There is mate, and if the solution to giving them a happier life is for adoption from ****s or lezzas , then so be it. Why not


Again I agree with you in principle.

It reminds me of the tattoo and gay blood giving issue. I'm sure if I was needing blood or a loved one would I **** give a **** if it was from a tattooed or gay person.

But I'd still like to know and even argue why that was or is an issue. If you see what I mean?
 
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Again I agree with you in principle.

It reminds me of the tattoo and gay blood giving issue. I'm sure if I was needing blood or a loved one would I **** give a **** if it was from a tattooed or gay person.

But I'd still like to know and even argue why that was or is an issue. If you see what I mean?

Because we were all led to believe that every **** had aids. Another lie we were force fed.
 
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Because we were all led to believe that every **** had aids. Another lie we were force fed.


Tbh mate they had good reason, based on scientific evidence that male to male sex had higher rates of "contaminated" blood.

Iirc it was because of deaths from hiv and hepatitis etc that lead to the restrictions in the first place. And I mean thousands of deaths

Even in countries where the "deferral" is low or none there has to be proof of safe sex in male to males
 
Good point about social media mate, but if it's too much for a kid then just come off it.

I think that's easier than done for youngsters, mate.

I don't think a kid will know if it's too much or not because they're at a stage in their life where they're easily influenced. What they're seeing on social media is likely to be what they're believing, even if it's likely a complete load of bollocks - the problem is they don't know that.
 
Ha, just seems this stuff ticks the boxes, and people can have a difference of opinions.


It's because no ones trying to point score. It makes for a good discussion

Govt should have you as the czar for discussing controversial issues. We could discuss us on here and design a policy
 
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Commie asked me to join in this debate, and I have promised him I won't wum.

I have two lads, a teenager and one half his age, so they have a mixture of interests.

The 16 year old is already 6ft 1inch, plays first team rugby for his school and is a member of a local rugby club, and takes boxing lessons from a professional boxer.

The 9 year old is not going to be as big as his brother, but has never taken any **** from any one.

My message to both my boys, from the very start - and I have consistently pressed this home to each of them - don't be a bully, but if anyone pushes you, give them something to think about. I am proud to say that neither of my boys are bullies, but neither is either bullied. Oh, a few have tried, but a swift couple of digs later saw to it that such nonsense would not be repeated in the future.

That is how I was brought up, and it is how I was able to get myself a good education at a very tough school. Kids who were good at such silly things as Maths and English, and Science were seen as "****s" or "spazs," and bullying them was seen as acceptable. I was taught to take none of that, and I quickly learned that the only real way to get the respect of these non-intellectual types was to go in hard and fast, and take no prisoners.

But if the unfortunate assailant was prepared to admit he had been in the wrong, I would always shake his hand. You spend a long time at school with these kids, and so it's important to find some mutual space with them.
 
Commie asked me to join in this debate, and I have promised him I won't wum.

I have two lads, a teenager and one half his age, so they have a mixture of interests.

The 16 year old is already 6ft 1inch, plays first team rugby for his school and is a member of a local rugby club, and takes boxing lessons from a professional boxer.

The 9 year old is not going to be as big as his brother, but has never taken any **** from any one.

My message to both my boys, from the very start - and I have consistently pressed this home to each of them - don't be a bully, but if anyone pushes you, give them something to think about. I am proud to say that neither of my boys are bullies, but neither is either bullied. Oh, a few have tried, but a swift couple of digs later saw to it that such nonsense would not be repeated in the future.

That is how I was brought up, and it is how I was able to get myself a good education at a very tough school. Kids who were good at such silly things as Maths and English, and Science were seen as "****s" or "spazs," and bullying them was seen as acceptable. I was taught to take none of that, and I quickly learned that the only real way to get the respect of these non-intellectual types was to go in hard and fast, and take no prisoners.

But if the unfortunate assailant was prepared to admit he had been in the wrong, I would always shake his hand. You spend a long time at school with these kids, and so it's important to find some mutual space with them.

What about them wanting to wear skirts and high heels?