Off Topic Are parents to blame

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What always gets me in some of this discussion is that a lot of research tries to link things for man to caveman days.

Yet then the conclusions always seem to be to inhibit man's natural urges.

So on one hand it's all "go on the caveman diet, man's natural instinct was to be Hunter gatherer"

The it's " hunting is so barbaric"

We are producing confused kids. The whole transgender thing is proof in a way. It's all " men need to get in touch with their femenine side" the "what do you mean you're a woman"
 
Simply not right ( IMHO ) .

No problem with peoples sexuality ( I never have had ) , this is 2018 not 1918 !

But a child growing up asking the same sex the parents " Where do babies come from "

Sorry , simply not right .

Why's it not right?

You have a same sex couple, we will say two females in this example. They have a baby. Child asks where did i come from....same place as every other baby surely!?

Created the same.
Born the same.
The only difference....

It wasn't via some drunken romp of a one night stand as is the case with some hetrosexual couples and was probably more thought through and planned as future parents.
 
I’d say some, maybe.

But many are genuinely concerned for their kid’s safety. Trying to keep them safe from the kids whose parents don’t give a **** what they do.

And, ****ing *****s too, of course, are another worry. Not something that was thought about much when I was a kid.
When I was a kid we were warned who the kiddy fiddlers and gluies were and used to take the piss out of them. I'd go off the head if I found related to me doing that <laugh>
 
Not when I was young.

Wrong place, wrong time you’d get a shoeing. But now, they’d just stick a knife in you.


Not sure about this one mate

In the 70's I saw more knives than I have since.

It was a different time but I was chased by skinheads either knives and chains etc even in the 80's. No one has pulled a knife on my kids as yet (thank God)

I do believe that when an issue becomes a "thing" it exaggerates things. There are plenty of examples ranging from lgbt to head scarf ban to knife crime imo
 
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Not sure about this one mate

In the 70's I saw more knives than I have since.

It was a different time but I was chased by skinheads either knives and chains etc even in the 80's. No one has pulled a knife on my kids as yet (thank God)

I do believe that when an issue becomes a "thing" it exaggerates things. There are plenty of examples ranging from lgbt to head scarf ban to knife crime imo


London is another world, mate.

Half these kids will stick a knife in you as soon as look at you.
 
London is another world, mate.

Half these kids will stick a knife in you as soon as look at you.

First question that comes to mind....is if it is as bad as you elude to, why buy a property there?
 
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London is another world, mate.

Half these kids will stick a knife in you as soon as look at you.

Yeah I appreciate that. I worked in community safety a while back and I found two things.

Firstly the Dynamics of gang culture (mainly drugs) has changed. From being a money making thing to not really fussed about money but more about lifestyle

Secondly I honestly believe when the media latch on to something the issue becomes bigger than it actually is.
 
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Why's it not right?

You have a same sex couple, we will say two females in this example. They have a baby. Child asks where did i come from....same place as every other baby surely!?

Created the same.
Born the same.
The only difference....

It wasn't via some drunken romp of a one night stand as is the case with some hetrosexual couples and was probably more thought through and planned as future parents.


They did NOT have a Baby , they GOT a Baby .

Tell the Baby that's How his / her parents acquired it , and see what happens when he / she is in their teens and the hormones start kicking in …..
 
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I never said that. I'm challenging the psychology of adult thinking and how that affects our children from a very early age.

I think no matter how we try to skin this cat..the bottom line is, genetically males and females are two different animals...and it's all designed for pro creaction and for the long term survival of the human species. Even in nature it's the same...the male will always be bigger, for example from the female of its species...the voices are deeper etc etc...we are just meant to be the 'masculine' out of the two.

It's also human nature to be corrupt...so then we are either violent men or we are not violent men....thems the choices we make. We don't have to try to phase out the Hetrosexual man from society in order to teach them that killing is not right. Men don't have to be gay to possess feelings of love and compassion and trying to force feed them into becoming affeminate thinkers by introducing this phrase 'gender neautral'. For me, in the long run this will create a massive puffy ***** society which will introduce its own set of perversions.

We all try to be well balanced but I doubt there is one man on here who would want to walk down the road with his own son if the guy fancied wearing a skirt and high heels for the day.
 
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Yeah I appreciate that. I worked in community safety a while back and I found two things.

Firstly the Dynamics of gang culture (mainly drugs) has changed. From being a money making thing to not really fussed about money but more about lifestyle

Secondly I honestly believe when the media latch on to something the issue becomes bigger than it actually is.


Talking to one of these kids - I’d guess he was 15-16, he said it was about respect. If you didn’t show him and his mates what they considered to be their due respect, they’d stick you!...
 
I bought it 30 years ago. The area is pretty safe. But there’s plenty that ain’t so safe.

So is the docklands less safe or Brixton than it was 30 years ago?

Which areas are we referring to?
 
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Well there is that also.

Anyone got an opinion on gay couples adopting?


This one is a weird one for me.

In principle I have no issue with anyone adopting a kid. God knows there is enough kids needing a stable life

My issue is with why they want to adopt. And this is as much for Angelina Jolie as it is for Elton John.

When adopting kids becomes a "rights" issue then is it about the kid? Orphan kids got enough problems
 
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I think no matter how we try to skin this cat..the bottom line is, genetically males and females are two different animals...and it's all designed for pro reaction and for the long term survival of the human species. Even in nature it's the same...the male will always be bigger, for example from the female of its species...the voices are deeper etc etc.

It's also human nature to be corrupt...so then we are either violent men or not violent men....thems the choices we make.We don't have to try to phase out the Hetrosexual man from society in order to teach them that killing is not right. Men don't have to be gay to possess feelings of love and compassion and trying to force feed them into becoming affeminate thinkers by introducing this phrase 'gender neautral'. For me, in the long run this will create a massive puffy ***** society which will introduce its own perversions in society.

We all try to be well balanced but I doubt there is one man on here who would want to walk down the road with his own son if the guy fancied wearing a skidt and high heels for the day.

Superb post<applause>
 
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So is the docklands less safe or Brixton than it was 30 years ago?

Which areas are we referring to?

It’s not just a matter of being safe. It’s safe from what?

30-40-50 years ago, you’d get a kicking if you put yourself about in the wrong area or you were in the wrong place, or said the wrong thing.

Nowadays, you’re playing with your life!..
 
This one is a weird one for me.

In principle I have no issue with anyone adopting a kid. God knows there is enough kids needing a stable life

My issue is with why they want to adopt. And this is as much for Angelina Jolie as it is for Elton John.

When adopting kids becomes a "rights" issue then is it about the kid? Orphan kids got enough problems

Celebs adopting kids as if they are a trophy?
 
They did NOT have a Baby , they GOT a Baby .

Tell the Baby that's How his / her parents acquired it , and see what happens when he / she is in their teens and the hormones start kicking in …..

How did they 'got' a baby...is that the same way a lot of young teenage hetrosexual mums got an 'unwanted' pregnancy, where they have to decide if they want to keep the baby?

Same sex females HAVE a baby the same way, it involves sperm.
 
It’s not just a matter of being safe. It’s safe from what?

30-40-50 years ago, you’d get a kicking if you put yourself about in the wrong area or you were in the wrong place, or said the wrong thing.

Nowadays, you’re playing with your life!..

Not if i shoot them in the bolloxs first <ok>
 
I think social media is massively impacting and influencing the youth. Everything is done to the extreme and it's so hugely influential nowadays.

Social media doesn't promote being normal and therefore kids are growing up with crazy ideologies.

There are different ends of the spectrum, from those promoting a somewhat weak mentality where acting a victim is encouraged and somewhat popular, people make a mockery of pretending to suffer from mental health issues just to gain followers and likes when in reality there's nothing wrong with them. You have groups spouting this gender neutral bollocks which ****s with kids' heads as they're now confused as to how they should act in fear of looking sexist.
Then there's the other end where people are promoting violence, such as filming others being beaten up, harshly pranked, embarassed etc.

It's becoming harder and harder for a kid to just grow up as a normal human being because social media doesn't favour normality.