Andre Gomes Everton

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What, go for a header?

Technically every header is dangerous and reckless no matter where or when it happens.
he was late and very forceful
like his head against mason
in both cases he just flew in without a realistic chance of heading the ball
 
he was late and very forceful
like his head against mason
in both cases he just flew in without a realistic chance of heading the ball

Maybe from his view he did have a realistic chance of heading the ball. You can't say for certain.

Though, considering you said he was "he was up to his tricks again yesterday afternoon", you obviously think he did it with intent.
 
Maybe from his view he did have a realistic chance of heading the ball. You can't say for certain.

Though, considering you said he was "he was up to his tricks again yesterday afternoon", you obviously think he did it with intent.
you got that wrong
I didnt think he did it with intent
I think he was reckless
 
The good news is, if there is, is that RM lived to tell the tale and Hull Citys brilliant med's were there to make sure he did.
 
you got that wrong
I didnt think he did it with intent
I think he was reckless
Agreed he was very, very reckless. Not only was he very late with the challenge and the ball had been headed away by Ryan Mason, but not once was he looking at the ball as shown by the series of photographs on Google. I am not sure he was even given even a yellow card and to add insult to injury (!!!!) he scored later in the game.
 
That's rubbish, Mason took the ball away from him, it was nothing more than a very unfortunate accident, with terrible consequences.
Mason was in a clear position to head the ball. Cahill could never have headed the ball because he was behind him. Mason headed the ball clear and then a tenth of a second later Cahill hit him. I was in the corner with a perfect view.
On Sunday it was very similar. Cahill flew in from behind the man and his head hit the back of the other players head. There was no other outcome possible.
If players go for a header from different angles there's always a chance of a collision but if a player jumps from behind another player and can only get the ball at the expense of hitting the player in front of him it is dangerous.
 
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Mason was in a clear position to head the ball. Cahill could never have headed the ball because he was behind him. Mason headed the ball clear and then a tenth of a second later Cahill hit him. I was in the corner with a perfect view.
On Sunday it was very similar. Cahill flew in from behind the man and his head hit the back of the other players head. There was no other outcome possible.
If players go for a header from different angles there's always a chance of a collision but if a player jumps from behind another player and can only get the ball at the expense of hitting the player in front of him it is dangerous.

If Mason hadn't got there, Cahill might well have done, it was a genuine attempt to head the ball...

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But it was obvious Mason would get there. Look at the video I posted. The second view shows how late Cahill was.

I understand what you are saying but you could also see that Cahill was already air bound .. when you go for a header several things come into play .. such as judging the ball flight and path and measuring yourself to meet that ball path. It's very rare to be able to watch the ball onto you forehead. For me Cahill was simply reacting to where the ball would be .. no intent .. and if you are talking millionth of a second decision making I'm afraid you cant have played the game for a while if it all. It just doesnt allow you to do so if you want to put in a challenge, sorry.
 
Probably the right outcome but I'd still support Atkinson's decision on the day.
His decision was a yellow card, it was in his hand for many many seconds, he should be made to publically explain why he then pulled a red one out.

The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
 
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His decision was a yellow card, it was in his hand for many many seconds, he should be made to publically explain why he then pulled a red one out.

The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
Atkinson played to the gallery. He was influenced by the crowd and players reaction and probably after seeing the extent of the injury.
But for some reason he cannot be arsed to trot over to the VAR equipment and make a decision for himself therefore hiding behind the decision those refereeing the match in front of the VAR screens decide on. The games quickly going to the dogs.
 
His decision was a yellow card, it was in his hand for many many seconds, he should be made to publically explain why he then pulled a red one out.

The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
For heaven's sake why should he explain his actions to you? I expect the FA asked him the question, they overturned the red. End of.