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And the plot thickens ...

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Smug in Boots, Jan 9, 2020.

  1. worcestermakem

    worcestermakem Active Member

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    Should all go to the game with mascara running down our faces.
    What a dickhead the man is.
     
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  2. Nonsense Potter

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    I genuinely don't care if he's from the south of england or Iceland. His position is wrong imo so forgive me for not caring about it.
     
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  3. The Norton Cat

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    But if you think he's wrong, you clearly do care about it.
     
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  4. Chunksafc

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    We as fans should care about it as its now been covered by a national newspaper.

    Not that it makes it even remotely right but its not doing us any favours
     
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  5. Sheep Farmer

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    Much easier to get defensive and claim to have been misrepresented marra
     
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  6. The Norton Cat

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    That's what I've been saying. Everyone wants to say that he's wrong, but no one seems to care enough to consider whether what he has said may have a kernel of truth to it. He must think that's the case, or why would he say it?
     
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  7. Nonsense Potter

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    Oh we're playing semantics! Sorry, I do care about it but I think it's bollocks. Okay?
     
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  8. The Norton Cat

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    We're not playing semantics at all. See my previous post.
     
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  9. Sheep Farmer

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    I think there is a kernel of truth in it but not convinced that it's more true of us than other groups of fans
     
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  10. Chunksafc

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    Personally, I think as a fan base we put up with a lot and certainly don't go the lengths other clubs fans do when they have the hump.

    That becomes a double edges sword as it gives an outward perception that we turn quickly on owners managers or players rather than the truth is that it builds over time, but we don't shout it publicly
     
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  11. FTM Dave

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    I've spent most of my adult life trying to get over the trauma of seeing Colin Waldron "play". Now you've made the memories flood back. How dare you :emoticon-0121-angry

    Just kidding <cheers>
     
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  12. The Norton Cat

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    I think that's probably right. It's difficult to tell though. I go to a few West Ham games every season (long story) and their fans always seem quite placid with regard to what goes on but then they have the occasional well-documented flare up. I don't know what would be more difficult for owners, consistent low-level griping or big angry protests that only happen occasionally.

    Like I said above, i think we tend to do low-level grumbling rather than being particularly vocal. I have thought for a while that there's a bit of fragile atmosphere at home games. Maybe that's what he means?
     
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  13. Chunksafc

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    Possibly, but it's now in the public domain that we have an image issue
     
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  14. Sheep Farmer

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    I think you're right in the last bit but I think it's got a certain amount of justification
     
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  15. Sheep Farmer

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    Next thing it'll be a "well known fact"
     
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  16. The Norton Cat

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    That is very true. And I suppose that's another reason why its a bit odd that everyone just wants to deny it. It's become more of a case of needing to prove him wrong.
     
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  17. Chunksafc

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    For all the amazing away support and the home attendances we will no doubt end up needing to prove him wrong
     
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  18. Saf

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    Tbf, I remember looking at our fanbase closely a few years back and comparing what I could to other clubs supporters. I've never known any other football grounds to empty as quick as ours. Other clubs seem to get the full stadiums behind them for the full game, I was watching people getting up and leaving from the 75th minute and these were games that we were drawing, by the time the 90th minute comes around you can spread right out across the seats. Maybe it's just a northeast issue because the Newcastle supporters are worse again. Mock funerals, shouting at shops, turning on the managers quickly.

    Patience and support required not lobbing the toys out the pram and screaming at our players to let them know how **** they're.
     
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  19. Kittenmittons

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    The Sunderland Disease?

    Christ, I don't care if he even thinks that is true deep down (I've seen some of our fans imply similar) but his only ****ing job wass to get fans onside. He is woefully inadequate to do that job if he can't stop himself insulting fans in documented meetings with fan representatives.

    He might as well have walked into the meeting wearing a hazmat suit in case he caught working class.
     
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  20. Porterfield73

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    next thing the local (mag) press will latch on to it and this 'sunderland disease' phrase will become their new buzzword (s) ....... thanks Charlie!
     
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