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Castro's Coffin said:
Adele doesn't seem short of a bob or two. Lots of bands of little discernible talent nowadays have made more money in 2 or 3 yearsthan what the Stones, Beatles, Who and others did in their first decade. Of course ludicrous tax rates in the 1960s and poor management played their part.
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I know Brian Epstein got the Beatles some very **** deals but didn't the Stones do a lot better? I've read the Beatles were envious of what the Stones were making despite having much less global appeal.
 
ElTigre said:
I know Brian Epstein got the Beatles some very **** deals but didn't the Stones do a lot better? I've read the Beatles were envious of what the Stones were making despite having much less global appeal.
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The Stones had a higher royalty rate, but then again virtually everyone did. Epstein accepted a very poor riyalty rate to get then a record deal.
When the Stones went into tax exile in 1970 because they had no hope of paying back what they owed due to financial mismanagement and the ridiculously high rates of tax they had after 6 years as the best known band after the Beatles about £80,000. The Stones weren't massive record sellers, surprisingly, compared to some others.
Epstein was supposedly approached at the height of Beatlemania in the US by someone wishing to market Beatles stuff. He said to Epsteins he was thinking of a 92/8% split,m the 8% being for his firms. Epsteins replied that the boys would be delighted with 8% and signed up for that. John Lennon was later quoted as saying that cost the band 600million dollars (at 1960s values heaven knows what that would be worth now).
Dave Clark was the most astute. He was the first one to independently produce his records and lease the recordings to the recording company. That made him a lot of money. Paul McCartney was full of admiration at his foresight and envious in equal measures. Clark said it had its ups and downs as the Beatles had lower royalties but were given the luxury of unlimited studio time whereas they had to get it right in two or three takes and if they didn't went down to the pub. Hard for anyone to realise for anyone not around then how big they were in the USA. In 6 years they sold twice as many records as Oasis did in 18 years. Some surprising people were fans of and influenced by them and their heavy drum sound, Tom Hanks, Stevie Wonder, Springsteen.
He was certainly a ruthless businessman. He owns the rights to Ready Steady Go and also much Beatles and Stones footage. Last person to see Freddie Mercury alive.
Good documentary called Glad All Over the history of the Dave Clark Five was on TV a couple of years ago. It is on YouTube and worth a look.
 
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Always enjoy this video of them playing that just to see the great Al Jackson in action. And Steve Cropper, the one musician left I would love to meet as he appeared on most of my favourite soul records. In fact he wrote quite a few of them. His appearance on Ronnie Wood's programme was great to listen to.
Note Creedence Clearwater Revival looking on from the doorway.

A few 50th anniversaries coming up this year, one of them involving Booker T and the MGs, and others regarding two of my all time favourites.Younwill probably be aware of them. Wonder if Quill will be?

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Castro's Coffin said:
A few 50th anniversaries coming up this year, one of them involving Booker T and the MGs, and others regarding two of my all time favourites.Younwill probably be aware of them. Wonder if Quill will be?

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Oh, there's plenty of stuff from 1967 that will be getting a mention from me.

Am I right to assume you are referring to Monterey, considering the acts that played there?
 
Quill said:
Oh, there's plenty of stuff from 1967 that will be getting a mention from me.

Am I right to assume you are referring to Monterey, considering the acts that played there?
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That is one of them. Some people think of it as memorable for being the introduction of Jimi Hendrix and The Who to America (both of whom were booked on the recommendation of Paul McCartney, the Beatles were asked to appear but turned it down). But the highlight to me was the emergence of Janis Joplin and a killer performance from Otis Redding backed by Booker T and the MGS along with the Memphis Horns, an unbeatable combination.
 
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