An open letter from Ehab...

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I reckon a large majority of those who attend know the Allams are ****s.

I reckon an unknown quantity of former attendees who use the ****itude of the Allams as an excuse for no longer attending. My anecdotal experience is that the Allams are one of many reasons/factors/excuses for no longer attending, not the only one.

As previously stated on this very forum, I am still waiting for an apology from David Lloyd for calling me and my fellow citizens/supporters 'rubbish'.

I also cross the Rubicon everytime I enter the stadium, owned by a council with a poor track record in bullying and who act against the expressed wishes of their electorate, which made its views clear in a referendum 3 years ago.

Sometimes, you just have to man up.and do what's best for you though.

Interesting day to make that statement.
 
If Ehab promised to give every stay away fan a portion of the new cheesy BBQ pulled pork chips the world would be a happier place and attendances would soar. my highlight of the season thus far.
 
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I grasp your opinion fully.
I'm afraid it is yourself who fails to recognize the insulting/patronizing approach you take in defending your opinion by belittling those with a different opinion or who may have misunderstood your presentation of your argument.
That is my only point. You do not see them as personal attacks.(a supplement to my point).

It is one thing to be expected to defend your opinion. It is another thing having to defend the integrity of your stated opinion where others are deliberately misrepresenting it for no other purpose beyond old scores and their own petty agendas.
But you know that, as, over the years, we have seen you react in a similar way when you believed your were wronged. One rule for you...
 
If Ehab promised to organise a Personal Appearance by Steven Gerrard or Wayne Rooney many stay away 'fans' would be delighted and the world would be a happier place and attendances would soar. my highlight of the season thus far.

Amended and agreed.
 
It is one thing to be expected to defend your opinion. It is another thing having to defend the integrity of your stated opinion where others are deliberately misrepresenting it for no other purpose beyond old scores and their own petty agendas.
But you know that, as, over the years, we have seen you react in a similar way when you believed your were wronged. One rule for you...

You have ? Examples please ? If anyone is bullshitting and using symantics (your spelling) 'tis you.
Show us your catalogue of old scores/petty agendas, and my "similar" responses that have irked me.
I'll question counterpoint - but never feel I have been wronged. Each to his own opinion. I'll admit defeat if the counter/premise is sound.
Abusive/ patronizing responses don't work fella, that's when I see weakness.
You are shooting from the hip, without substance.
 
I wasn’t propping up anything, I was taking the piss, I thought your posts pathetic & deserving of it. There was no discussion, no debate, no argument. There was a simple point made which questioned your changed stance & pathetic (in view of your previous posts) observation that “we” are over using the Allams as a reason not to attend. Subsequent posts were used to purposely highlight your flip-flopping by showing your previous extreme views of using the Allams as a reason not to attend. Nothing more, nothing less.

Maybe keep your opinions to just include you & not we.

Again, you fail to interpret my use of the word, we, in the context in which it was used. I am starting to attribute that mistake to intelligence rather that mischief, or something worse.

As you say (except for PLT) there was no discussion, no debate, no argument; but there could have been. Chill was pissed. Kempton got it wrong. But you hold an old grudge as you have done with others many times. So you decided to derail any discussion by taking the piss - your proud words.

What do you find flip-flopping about my posts, are you able to explain yourself or are you the loudmouthed poster that comes across?
 
Again, you fail to interpret my use of the word, we, in the context in which it was used. I am starting to attribute that mistake to intelligence rather that mischief, or something worse.

As you say (except for PLT) there was no discussion, no debate, no argument; but there could have been. Chill was pissed. Kempton got it wrong. But you hold an old grudge as you have done with others many times. So you decided to derail any discussion by taking the piss - your proud words.

What do you find flip-flopping about my posts, are you able to explain yourself or are you the loudmouthed poster that comes across?

Oh do **** off you boring ****
 
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When the time comes and the Allams try to buy me and get me to stop saying nasty things about them, I will just tell them to **** off, it's much simpler that way.
 
When the time comes and the Allams try to buy me and get me to stop saying nasty things about them, I will just tell them to **** off, it's much simpler that way.

After their initial bitterness, surprise and resentment in around 2014, I reckon they moved swiftly on.

They long since stopped bothering about people telling them to '**** off', they're not listening anymore.

Ditto appeals for apologies etc....... there's no one at home.
 
Again, you fail to interpret my use of the word, we, in the context in which it was used. I am starting to attribute that mistake to intelligence rather that mischief, or something worse.

As you say (except for PLT) there was no discussion, no debate, no argument; but there could have been. Chill was pissed. Kempton got it wrong. But you hold an old grudge as you have done with others many times. So you decided to derail any discussion by taking the piss - your proud words.

What do you find flip-flopping about my posts, are you able to explain yourself or are you the loudmouthed poster that comes across?
FFS. Inferiority complex rears it's ugly head. Give it up.
You've made your point. Desist with the insults (e.g (1) the last sentence in the first para. plus (2) the final sentence in your post above).

Your position:
Bashing the Allams is now counter productive. Support the team, ignore the damage the Allams have inflicted on the supporters and the clubs progression.
Forget those who can't forget that insulting, antipathetic attitude to the historical support base and recognition of deeply felt club history.
Remember the shallow (even meaningless) gestures they have made to attempt to combat their incompetent management of the franchise and win the paying punters back to bail them out.
We get it.

That's the argument/debate. You have a point. Many others feel differently. They (may) have a stronger counter-point. Just accept/recognize the existence of the latter. View the antagonism towards your viewpoint as (maybe you already do sympathize with it) the way it is.
Perhaps part of your position was inadequately presented. Particularly the "we" factor.

The use of "we" could easily be mistaken for "global" acceptance, but not viewed as such by quite a few posters on this forum, nor (perhaps) those supporters who no longer attend live games (home or away).

Everyone seems to be (high proportion on here anyway) totally in agreement with the damage of the insensitive/selfish way the Allams are stearing the club's business.

The decision to not put cash in through the turnstiles seems to be heavily supported ( for whatever reason ???).

The Allams' contribution to that fact is clear.

Can we not be more civilized in our debate here ?
 
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FFS. Inferiority complex rears it's ugly head. Give it up.
You've made your point. Desist with the insults (e.g the last sentence in your post above).

Your position:
Bashing the Allams is now counter productive. Support the team, ignore the damage the Allams have inflicted on the supporters and the clubs progression.
Forget those who can't forget that insulting, antipathetic attitude to the historical support base and recognition of deeply felt club history.
Remember the shallow (even meaningless) gestures they have made to attempt to combat their incompetent management of the franchise and win the paying punters back to bail them out.
We get it.

That's the argument/debate. You have a point. Many others feel differently. They (may) have a stronger counter-point. Just accept/recognize the existence of the latter. View the antagonism towards your viewpoint as (maybe you already do sympathize with it) the way it is.
Perhaps part of your position was inadequately presented. Particularly the "we" factor.

The use of "we" could easily be mistaken for "global" acceptance, but not viewed as such by quite a few posters on this forum, nor (perhaps) those supporters who no longer attend live games (home or away).

Everyone seems to be (high proportion on here anyway) totally in agreement with the damage of the insensitive/selfish way the Allams are stearing the club's business.

The decision to not put cash in through the turnstiles seems to be heavily supported ( for whatever reason ???).

The Allams' contribution to that fact is clear.

Can we not be more civilized in our debate here ?

One thing's for sure...this rancour it will NOT FADE AWAY anytime soon
 
After their initial bitterness, surprise and resentment in around 2014, I reckon they moved swiftly on.

They long since stopped bothering about people telling them to '**** off', they're not listening anymore.

Ditto appeals for apologies etc....... there's no one at home.
Exactly.
More contempt earned. Sadly a negative feedback emotion in the main.