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I don't know the full details of lease, just snippets from people I know and trust. Its enough to convince me that community use is part of the lease. The final 20% only comes from actually seeing it.
The club are confident that because it can still be used by others when not in use by Hull City they fulfill their obligations. Unfortunately the changes means most of the current users won't be able to use it.
 
They're not in breach, the council can do nothing, that's why they're just helping the sports find alternative sites.

This suggests they are in breach but the fact that the council / Brady hasnt come up with exact wording of the lease agreement is a sign....

Cllr Brady said: "The arena has always been a mixed-use facility for different sports. That is part of the lease.

"As the leaseholder, the SMC is required to notify the council of any change of use or alterations as a matter of course but this did not happen on this occasion."
 
Good luck to you and the others affected. We do need academy status, but not at this cost.

Even if this really is the right thing, it's the wrong way to do it.

Unfortunately, you're dragged into a situation where you're pawns in someone else's 'game' and that's wrong.

We're all pawns in someone else's game.
 
Doesn't that breach the rules of exclusive academy use?

If the schools can use it, I see no reason the trampolinists can't. It's not difficult to set out a temporary floor for their equipment. Obviously the basketball and stuff would have to move but I'm sure there's plenty of venues capable of hosting a basketball team. My old school could have done that.

Does anyone have an answer to this?
 
I tell you what, something good seems to have come out of this in that we demonstrably - on here at least - have far less in-fighting and 'for versus against' Allam fights. With the straight name change there were a proportion of, clearly mentally challenged :emoticon-0105-wink:, posters who supported him and couldnt give two hoots about the name as long as we had a good team. It seems that nearly if not everyone is against his actions here and he might unwittingly have turned some of his supporters against him.

The man really is priceless.
 
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The club certainly seem 100% sure. The lease terms on 'community use' are pretty vague apparently and as it's still a sports facility being used to develop local talent and will still be available to local schools, it meets the criteria required.

Even if it didn't, I doubt the council would take him on.

I know that's what the club are saying but its not what I've been told.

Its in the club's interest to say everything's ok. The test will come if the Council take him on. As I said I'm 80% certain they are in breach and the lease to the SMC can be terminated.
 
The arena will have a permanent 3g floor, only sports played on grass will get continued use of the facility, they're not going to buy and store a temporary floor just for the use of trampolines.

Allam is buying a temporary floor for his squash tournament anyway, so there'll be one knocking about doing bugger all for 51 weeks of the year.

It may be a bit of a pain in the arse but it's at least a lifeline, supposing other groups are actually allowed to use the arena complying with academy rules.

It's worth following anyway, it seems there aren't many other avenues for them to pursue at present.
 
Allam is buying a temporary floor for his squash tournament anyway, so there'll be one knocking about doing bugger all for 51 weeks of the year.

It may be a bit of a pain in the arse but it's at least a lifeline, supposing other groups are actually allowed to use the arena complying with academy rules.

It's worth following anyway, it seems there aren't many other avenues for them to pursue at present.

The temporary squash courts are hired, there's nowhere to store them, they'll only be there for the tournament.
 
The temporary squash courts are hired, there's nowhere to store them, they'll only be there for the tournament.

Fair enough, I thougght he was buying it in for some reason.

Does anyone know if the 3G pitch will, or has to cover the entire arena floor? Or how much floor space the trampolinists need?
 
I know that's what the club are saying but its not what I've been told.

Its in the club's interest to say everything's ok. The test will come if the Council take him on. As I said I'm 80% certain they are in breach and the lease to the SMC can be terminated.

He wouldn't be spending £250k on converting it if he thought there was a chance he'd lose it, the council will do nothing.
 
He wouldn't be spending £250k on converting it if he thought there was a chance he'd lose it, the council will do nothing.

There are two points, first can the Council legally terminate the contract. The answer to that in my view is yes. However without seeing the lease I cannot be certain.

The second is whether the council will do anything. Of that I'm less certain. Evicting hundreds of users from the Airco Arena is going to make it a lot easier for the Council to stand up to him.

If they terminate the lease Hull City Tigers Limited is rich enough to find an alternative pitch for their academy. There are plenty of empty building for him to convert and lay a carpet in.

A final consideration is whether any of the groups can legally contest the evictions if the council doesn't.

Complicated isn't it?
 
The bigger question is, now that Bishop Bash college have said no to him, where is the academy going to end up with the centre of excellence gone as well?
 
There are two points, first can the Council legally terminate the contract. The answer to that in my view is yes. However without seeing the lease I cannot be certain.

The second is whether the council will do anything. Of that I'm less certain. Evicting hundreds of users from the Airco Arena is going to make it a lot easier for the Council to stand up to him.

If they terminate the lease Hull City Tigers Limited is rich enough to find an alternative pitch for their academy. There are plenty of empty building for him to convert and lay a carpet in.

A final consideration is whether any of the groups can legally contest the evictions if the council doesn't.

Complicated isn't it?

Allam would like nothing more than to go to war with the council, the council want nothing less, they'll do absolutely nothing.
 
The bigger question is, now that Bishop Bash college have said no to him, where is the academy going to end up with the centre of excellence gone as well?

It would be interesting to know what the issue was at Bishop Burton, but I doubt we'll ever find out.

Another thing, it's not just the academy, the first team will be using it as well and the first team training ground is also getting new facilities.
 
It would be easier to terminate the lease and hand it to Adam Pearson to run. Pearson could negotiate new contracts with Hull FC and Hull City Tigers Limited to ensure the council got a decent rent for the place. He has a successful track record of managing the stadium and facilities.

Holds onto hat.

If my laptop had a "I really really really like this " button, I would press it !!!!!!
IMO The council could save £1 and just terminate the SMC lease as Allam, it would appear has broken its terms.Im in no doubt whatsoever if Pearson broke or even slightly bent the terms of HFCs lease then Allam would take action to evict him from The Stadium
 
I don't know the full details of lease, just snippets from people I know and trust. Its enough to convince me that community use is part of the lease. The final 20% only comes from actually seeing it.
Doesn't playing football come under 'community use' ?
 
Doesn't playing football come under 'community use' ?
Not with this set of ****ing fannies. Schools football can still use it. Some soft **** on here started bleating about how many top pro footballers will it produce FFS

So how many gymnasts trampoliners, roller derby <laugh> champions has it? Who would ****ing care if we did.
 
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