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I can't wait to find out what the real story is with mito and valley. Valley's first reveal was correct about Tobes so for now I'll assume his second one is correct too and vote Mito.

I am wary of speculating too much about the hidden powers, we have no idea what they are, but killing mito should tell us if the mafia power is to force someone to kill (ie mito killing ibwt), or not. If mito is innocent then it means not only was he forced to kill ibwt, but valley's investigations were tampered with, unless valley is a bad guy which is unlikely at this stage.

One thing that did occur to me. We know mafia numbers were low at the start of the game. What if one or two of the town roles were mafia aligned, either from the start or after a certain action? Selfishly I'll propose what if they kill an innocent? <laugh> would be very sneaky of afc though...

Afcftw, i know you don't give out much info but could you give us the overall picture of town vs mafia vs cartel (& vs serial killer once he activates) in your daily updates please? It will tell us exactly what numbers the mafia have, in case there are more than two...

One other thing, i know everyone is running around speculating who could be mafia etc. you need to look at what is KNOWN, focus on that first. I've defended myself enough, i won't go into that again, you know where i stand. But we KNOW tobes is mafia now, so look back at the voting. Who tried to deflect attention or only voted for him at the end when it was certain he was going?

If you look back after valley revealed, i was the first one to jump on and say we need to lynch the definite bad guy, and voted or him. This was BEFORE mito claimed i was mafia, so i was not under suspicion at all... Not exactly mafia like actions to say kill a mafia member, although i was hoping he was cartel. Just think carefully guys...
 
I'm going to go update all my notes again, ffs this takes ages, I stopped on page 41 and we're up to pg 75 already.

After that I'll post my thoughts on the current situation, it's obviously changed things up quite a bit with Valley saying mito is non-town now. I was leaning towards mito being town up to that point. Will probably take a couple of hours again.
 
Sir Tennisball said:
I'm going to go update all my notes again, ffs this takes ages, I stopped on page 41 and we're up to pg 75 already.

After that I'll post my thoughts on the current situation, it's obviously changed things up quite a bit with Valley saying mito is non-town now. I was leaning towards mito being town up to that point. Will probably take a couple of hours again.
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I'm behind too. I have strong suspicions on the last two mafia members. Just going to watch how they go on today.
 
Morning vote table:

Mito (6): Valley, ACS, Swarbs, Funky, Bodanki, Sir tennisball
Bodanki (2): Mito, Lucaaas
Sir tennisball (3): BobbyD, Less Hope than Neville, Sebbs campaign manager

Yet to vote: Mikey, 666 Tash 666, Rolando, Nobbertos salsa inferno
 
ValleyGraduate12 said:
The way I see it, we have two options.

1. We kill Tennis and I reinvestigate MITO (in case my findings were hacked). If Tennis is innocent, we kill MITO tomorrow.
2. We kill MITO, I investigate someone else and if MITO is the Drunk, we kill Tennis tomorrow.

Having thought it over, I'm leaning towards option 1.
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Ok, have only read the last page or so (how the **** do we get ten more pages in the middle of the night?!)

But with Nobby having said he is not the PI, that does create some worry. So I'm going to fall back on my true and tested method of abdicating all responsibility and following Valley. Also it creates a nice tie to see what that shakes look.

I vote Sir Tennisball
 
Therefore vote table:

Morning vote table:

Mito (5): Valley, ACS, Funky, Bodanki, Sir tennisball
Bodanki (2): Mito, Lucaaas
Sir tennisball (5): BobbyD, Less Hope than Neville, Sebbs campaign manager, Nobbertos salsa inferno, Swarbs

Yet to vote: Mikey, 666 Tash 666, Rolando

I'd propose we leave it like that for a while and see who says and does what.
 
Swarbs said:
Ok, have only read the last page or so (how the **** do we get ten more pages in the middle of the night?!)

But with Nobby having said he is not the PI, that does create some worry. So I'm going to fall back on my true and tested method of abdicating all responsibility and following Valley. Also it creates a nice tie to see what that shakes
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My sort of plan
 
what do you guys want me to do with my vote?

I am not on tennis now but that leaves the possibility open in your collective minds that i will switch. I don't want that kind of doubt.

I'd rather it be a 6v6 tie and you all look and see if nobody flinches.
 
now I want to show the logic i am applying and it might hel the town afterwards if nothing else


Question: why did valley report non town on me when I know I am town drunk


Evidence:

night one result Post 574: http://www.not606.com/threads/afcftw-mafia-game.303261/page-29#post-8023920

“An investigation last night and Tobes was identified as not being a member of the Town.

The poster who kept changing votes in the last few moments was seen running away with a bloodied knife in his hand near IBWTs sliced and diced body. This person is a Liverpool MOD.”


Night 2 result: post 1242 http://www.not606.com/threads/afcftw-mafia-game.303261/page-63#post-8026989

“My investigation reveals MITO to be NON TOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Therefore I vote the lying twat MITO.”


Rules: “Psychic - the psychic spends his time studying the mystic and is able to read the aura of other town members. The psychic can choose to investigate one person each night but will only receive a town, or non-town read.”


Obviously the evidence nobody can believe is that I am town drunk

Any other real facts out there?

Theories:

1. Valley is mafia and has really pulled a stunt.

2. Valley is the psychic and got a bad result

3. Valley is the psychic and was deliberately fed wrong info


Any other possibilities?


Suppositions?

1. valley is mafia.. don’t dismiss it out of hand.… why? The tobes factor. Why lynch tobes so obviously on one hand but why did tobes court votes in the end? why did he go out of his way yesterday to go for in his words "the full house" is there a big reward in it for mafia? It seems unlikely but not impossible.

2. A bad result? The rules don’t show why he would get one. I’m the one with the 2/3rds chance not him. The rules don’t say he is a bad psychic

3. Valley got deliberately fed bad info. Night one he got tobes right. He was not known to the town at that point. Night 2 he gets bad info and is known to town. Everyone knew he was investigating me. It does add up that some party fed him bad info in this case.


Of the 3 options i thought of number 3 is most likely to my mind and 2 is least likely from the rules. Option 1 is scary but there could be something going on.

If we say ok.... we know everything thinks valley is the psychic... everyone knew he was investigating me... if there is someone with hidden power that is mafia are serial killer or cartel or even obi whi is not town aligned either... it would be very simple to feed him a bit of wrong info and get me killed.

That is a nice convenient story no? I know at least half will just not believe anything i say but those of you keeping open minds i hope this helps.



now i have to move onto more contentious issues. I want to separate my theories from the next point as I want to help the town and leave it for your thinking.

My thought next is; I was not revealed until after day 1. I found sir tennis was mafia. i know it is only 2/3rd chance of being right BUT... probably its not influenced as i was not revealed. I still have confidence in it despite the nice stuff tennis is saying.

As a result i once again volunteer. If it is a tie vote fine let it be a tie, but if people are leaning towards the risk i'm actually telling the truth (which i am and grateful not all just thought i'm a complete bullshitter) then if you are killing sir tennis I want the meth head to kill me tonight too.

I am the town drunk but if such a flipping rule exists my data will be very hard to trust anyway and if tennis is found innocent you'll all waste yet another day killing me by lynch
 
what do you think i should do with my vote?

as it stands I can be accused of just waiting to switch and kill sir tennis. I'd rather eliminate that possibility now then both me and sir tennis are on each other and no such tricks can occur.






@ValleyGraduate12 what do you want me to do with my vote too.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
As a result i once again volunteer. If it is a tie vote fine let it be a tie, but if people are leaning towards the risk i'm actually telling the truth (which i am and grateful not all just thought i'm a complete bullshitter) then if you are killing sir tennis I want the meth head to kill me tonight too.

I am the town drunk but if such a flipping rule exists my data will be very hard to trust anyway and if tennis is found innocent you'll all waste yet another day killing me by lynch
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You read my mind, was going to suggest the same thing.
Sir Tennis
 
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