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[moreinjuredthanowen]

I am still leaning toward MITO being guilty, but the meth head will take him out.

Dont buy this whole, the drunk doesnt know anything and so wont reveal himself bullshit. Its nuts, especially when someone is impersonating him, and we could reduce the mafia down to one member tonight for sure were that the case, 1 vs all of us = assured victory, yet MITO has gone unchallenged as the drunk since he declared it, and if the real drunk is active and has done nothing, then he is a backbirth, as is anyone who buys that theory.

I think the real drunk has either been silenced or is inactive.

That could have happened but.... I am the real drunk.

There are only three things I can be in this logic. I'm right out here in the open and I said all day kill Tobes. I'm mafia or cartel. If mafia I've revealed all after killing ibwt when I could have simply focused on Tobes and hoped for best. If I am cartel. Why on earth would i not recruit and then put my whole game at risk.

Finally I could be serial killer. I could have had to get 10 votes day one to activate. Problem... rules say I don't know who I am til activated. If I was single serial killer why would I kill ibwt and appear mafia and why would valley get two reads night one and why would I not simply be innocent town.

Only mafia imo makes sense... but I was saying all day kill Tobes.

I am the town drunk and nobody has denied it. Not even in tags!


So I ask why are you acting weird then?

 

[Brian Storm]

The real drunk (if not MITO) doesn't really need to reveal themselves atm imo.

- If he doesn't reveal himself, he knows MITO is guilty and thus just needs to wait for us to string up MITO. At the moment MITO seems guilty enough that the drunk probably doesn't feel the need to expose himself just to put the final nail in
- If he does reveal himself, MITO still looks guilty, but then the Mafia will know who the drunk is and may kill him. The real drunk could be using this as cover to investigate loads of people in the shadows and then when the Mafia kills are used up he can come forwards and give us loads of info without fear. Or he may have no useful info yet.

Imo if the drunk reveals themselves, it won't really affect MITO's fate, but could cause the drunk to be killed

Too much ****ing sense mate.

I'd also add with Valley's role already known to the mafia, so keeping the PI identity secret for now is very important. Only one investigator needs to be known at a time unless there's **** hot intel to pass on. It's just sensible defence.

 

[Joelinton's Right Foot]

I am still leaning toward MITO being guilty, but the meth head will take him out.

Dont buy this whole, the drunk doesnt know anything and so wont reveal himself bullshit. Its nuts, especially when someone is impersonating him, and we could reduce the mafia down to one member tonight for sure were that the case, 1 vs all of us = assured victory, yet MITO has gone unchallenged as the drunk since he declared it, and if the real drunk is active and has done nothing, then he is a backbirth, as is anyone who buys that theory.

I think the real drunk has either been silenced or is inactive.

Personally I think it would be a mistake for the meth head to go after MITO. He is the only person claiming to be PI. If Tennis is mafia and we kill MITO anyway then that only hurts the town. If SirTennis is innocent we lynch MITO anyway (based on the balance of probabilities)

 

[Magnet]

Both the bits in bold are wrong.

As mito has pointed out all along (fair play to him) there's only a 67% chance of me being mafia, so when I'm proven innocent it doesn't mean he is mafia. I've been pointing this out all along, so have many others. Killing me does not conclusively prove that mito is innocent or guilty, once I'm confirmed as a townie. If I was mafia then it would mean he could well be innocent, but Valley's investigation said he was non town so that is in major doubt now.

Mito is not the only source of insight. Valley says he is psychic which is the main source of insight, at 100% accuracy. Mito says he is the drunk which is the second source of insight at 67% accuracy (which is not 100% accurate as I found out the hard way).

Take on board your first point but would expect MAFIA hit on Valley pretty damn soon on second point.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

And if the town lynched tennis... what do you say then to this drunk?

Why did you not come out?


In the end you just need to trust your gut and if that kills be be ready to change your minds cos I am the drunk and you will have killed me.

Ask yourselves then when was valleys report wrong and then look back at my post on it.

I will now invite the meth head right now.. kill me tonight. If the vote says tennis in lead kill me. If I'm out front do what you want.

 

[BobbyD]

Okay.

Having seen the effect Sir Tennis is going then i think i'd like to rethink of the plans.

I don't like how the Cartel hasn't recruited and the lack of input of some members of this game. Plus Tash i think from obis statement is a cartel member unless i'm reading it wrong (they haven't recruited and he doesnt appear on)

2. 666 Tash 666 was tending to his garden ready to enter his prize veg for the town fayre.

MITO makes a compelling case even though all the evidence points against him. As long as he's feeding in "good-ish" townie information i'm happy to keep him alive for the time being as getting rid of him doesn't mean the Mafia team has lost and died (as long as we keep him in our radars).

I'm not sure we should be lynching SirTennis yet and maybe Valley can investigate SirTennis (providing we believe Valley is our psychic) and he can tell us what he thinks SirTennis is.

On that note, i vote 666 Tash 666

 

[Sir Tennisball]

Yes I know he did. Some people are suggesting he investigates him again to check if the mafia switched the result. IJust saying that personally I don't see the point in that. Valley should be using his vote more constructively. At least we have circumstantial evidence to play with as far as you and MITO go,

I agree, sorry I misunderstood what you were saying.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Personally I think it would be a mistake for the meth head to go after MITO. He is the only person claiming to be PI. If Tennis is mafia and we kill MITO anyway then that only hurts the town. If SirTennis is innocent we lynch MITO anyway (based on the balance of probabilities)

But if tennis is innocent you hurt the town too.

I think he is 2/3rd likely to be guilty but I want to be fair to town.

I would say to you all when I die you are going to have to completely reset to day 1 as you will see I'm right and you have not much info and valleys info is wrong.

I hope I have tennis right

 

[Joelinton's Right Foot]

Isn't Obi just meant to be a rambler who causes mischief? He isn't fed info by AFC anywhere in the game description.

Edited: I had Tash in my head after Bobby's post.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Isn't Tasj just meant to be a rambler who causes mischief? He isn't fed info by AFC anywhere in the game description.

No Obi is.

 

[Joelinton's Right Foot]

But if tennis is innocent you hurt the town too.

I think he is 2/3rd likely to be guilty but I want to be fair to town.

I would say to you all when I die you are going to have to completely reset to day 1 as you will see I'm right and you have not much info and valleys info is wrong.

I hope I have tennis right

If Tennis is innocent we lose an innocent townie. If you are innocent we lose our PI. The risk is greater in losing you first.

If Tennis is innocent then even though it is only 2/3 accurate then the chain of events should lead us to lynch you next.

I am really hoping SirTennis is mafia. I have aligned myself so closely to you now that if you are Mafia then I ould expect to go next. I just think the evidence oints to you being PI and to you expecting Valley to find you to be a townie.

 

[Swarbs]

I'm not sure we should be lynching SirTennis yet and maybe Valley can investigate SirTennis (providing we believe Valley is our psychic) and he can tell us what he thinks SirTennis is.

This makes sense, although I'm concerned that we would potentially have our two investigators spending all their time investigating the same guy and each other!

If Sir Tennis does turn up innocent then do we lynch MITO? Or would we need to get Valley to investigate MITO again? We could basically be chasing our arse around those three whilst the real Mafia are out there unlocking powers, and the cartel and SK finally wake the **** up!

 

[BobbyD]

If Tennis is innocent we lose an innocent townie. If you are innocent we lose our PI. The risk is greater in losing you first.

If Tennis is innocent then even though it is only 2/3 accurate then the chain of events should lead us to lynch you next.

I am really hoping SirTennis is mafia. I have aligned myself so closely to you now that if you are Mafia then I ould expect to go next. I just think the evidence oints to you being PI and to you expecting Valley to find you to be a townie.

Which is why i'm voting for Tash, keeping Tennis alive and asking Valley to investigate him on our behalves (We all believe Valley is the psychic, he outed tobes and it'd be risky for Mafia to out someone + there doesn't appear to be another psychic, the only thing i'm uncomfortable with is that Valley came out so early)

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

Anyone solved my death yet? [HASHTAG]#allaboutgerrez[/HASHTAG]

 

[BobbyD]

This makes sense, although I'm concerned that we would potentially have our two investigators spending all their time investigating the same guy and each other!

If Sir Tennis does turn up innocent then do we lynch MITO? Or would we need to get Valley to investigate MITO again? We could basically be chasing our arse around those three whilst the real Mafia are out there unlocking powers, and the cartel and SK finally wake the **** up!

If tennis is innocent and as long as MITO still appears to be "helping" us (at least hes asking thought provoking questions), then i would be inclined to keep MITO until we route out the Last mafia (assuming MITO is one). As we greatly outnumber the mafia, they can't hurt us except for their hidden skills which appears any of the mafia members can do so i don't think it makes sense killing off MITO yet who we suspect but are split as a town about

 

[Joelinton's Right Foot]

Which is why i'm voting for Tash, keeping Tennis alive and asking Valley to investigate him on our behalves (We all believe Valley is the psychic, he outed tobes and it'd be risky for Mafia to out someone + there doesn't appear to be another psychic, the only thing i'm uncomfortable with is that Valley came out so early)

We have intel that SirTennis is mafia though. It is only 67% accurate but its better odds than a shot in the dark. It would make more sense for Valley to investigate Tash and us to lynch SirTennis. I believe MITO is the PI and I think we have a genuine (67%) chance of reducing the mafia down to one tonight.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

If Tennis is innocent we lose an innocent townie. If you are innocent we lose our PI. The risk is greater in losing you first.

If Tennis is innocent then even though it is only 2/3 accurate then the chain of events should lead us to lynch you next.

I am really hoping SirTennis is mafia. I have aligned myself so closely to you now that if you are Mafia then I ould expect to go next. I just think the evidence oints to you being PI and to you expecting Valley to find you to be a townie.

Look I hope he is too. we have to be open minded and say he might not be.

At least my investigate was in the dark day one so should only have the 1/3 odds of being off.

however now my odds if there is a hidden power to flip investigations...... (and you guys can say not there's not but you don't know what are hidden right now but from my perspective it happened)..... this means any future info i can get is very suspect from my point of view.

Therefore I say bring on the meth head. write it up like bruce wayne's parents getting snuffed please AFC. make my lads words be avenge meeeee.....Don't make me **** to death like greez.

 

[BobbyD]

At the same time, there are members of the "town" who are keeping quiet and are near enough useless who aren't giving any information out at all. Along with OBI's quotes which supposedly 1 in 3 are true, i'm tempted to make a calculated guess that this Cartel leader is a large inactive (like Tash) and based upon my quote. I'd rather get more information from Valley and act on a calculated guess against a low risk target than make a large decision on MITO and SirTennis yet

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

If tennis is innocent and as long as MITO still appears to be "helping" us (at least hes asking thought provoking questions), then i would be inclined to keep MITO until we route out the Last mafia (assuming MITO is one). As we greatly outnumber the mafia, they can't hurt us except for their hidden skills which appears any of the mafia members can do so i don't think it makes sense killing off MITO yet who we suspect but are split as a town about

I would not actually advocate that either. If you have a chance to kill a mafia take it. even though that hurts me it must be said. If you leave me about thinking hmmm mafia.. I then obviously must have some power to hurt town.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

please note that as i called out nobody used the tags to deny me immediate after there is a tag... "hiccup mito is not the drunk hiccup"

make of that what you want.