Adkins out? (poll)

[ollysaints1]

Well as I said in my post, we can beat Swansea, QPR and Norwich. Swansea are not a particularly good side but people get easily fooled, they had a good couple of opening games against West Ham and QPR who were both absolutely terrible on the day, people started raving and discussing them as top-8 contenders and then since then have really struggled, we play them at home, after they play City and Liverpool away and then have Chelsea visit them, they could take some real lickings and be low on confidence: very winnable game. QPR are rock bottom and are looking dismal for all the big names they brought in, we play them away but that could even benefit us with the pressure from their fans, if we take a lead the boos will come out and they could collapse, they could even have a new manager by the time we play them, or they could have sorted it out and started playing as a team, but who knows, but as it stands right now: very winnable game. Then there's Norwich who despite getting a big win today are just not a very good team, the whole basis of their chances is in team-work and organisation, the foundations of their success last season, they haven't showed enough of that this season, and if we show the gulf in class between the two sides we could give them a good roasting, so: another very winnable fixture at home. Then we have our three toughest games, Newcastle and Tottenham at home, and West Brom away. West Brom are not the same quality of Newcastle and Spurs, but have had a great start to the season and their home form is great, but despite that, we could still easily come away from that game with a point if we play well, then Newcastle and Spurs on their day are very very dangerous teams, but they blow hot and cold, and we play both of them at home, if they don't have one of their good games, and we put a good performance in, again, we could easily take a point from one of those games. So we have three very winnable games, and three tough games but games which we could easily manage to snag a point from at least one of. Three wins + One draw = 10 points. At the very least I'd say we should be able to pick up Two wins and a draw.

i envy your naivety and optimism

 

[- Doing The Lambert Walk]

So he spoke to him off-the-record and then publically announced what he said? Not sure he'll be getting too many scoops from Nicola!

He never reported it, not sure it was acknowledged as OTR, but he had a chat with Nicola.

Depends how NC sees it, at all levels or at the top?

 

[Mikey]

im pleased at least some people on here aren't always claiming to be th ultimate superfans, and actually look at things in a realistic way. Nigel had 2 weeks to come up with a plan for this match, putting Lambert on the bench was not the one he should have used.

i envy your naivety and optimism

I envy your ability to make hypocritical statements with complete certainty with no supportive statements or evidence.

 

[ollysaints1]

I envy your ability to make hypocritical statements with complete certainty with no supportive statements or evidence.

No supportive statements? we have 4 points from 8 games, conceded the most golas at this stage in premier league history, have lost from a winning position more times than anyone else in the league, on course to get less than 25 points. is that enough evidence for you?

 

[Saints_Alive]

i envy your naivety and optimism

It was a very realistic and well reasoned post, we are nowhere near as bad as people think, yes, the results have not been great but we have only been outplayed on 2 occasions this season . If we can eradicate giving away cheap goals then we will start to pick up points and gain confidence rapidly, we are a decent footballing team with plenty of goals in the team, there is plenty to play for yet.

 

[Mikey]

No supportive statements? we have 4 points from 8 games, conceded the most golas at this stage in premier league history, have lost from a winning position more times than anyone else in the league, on course to get less than 25 points. is that enough evidence for you?

No because those are just basic non-contextual stats that you can read from any chumps footballing blog (Possibly yours? Link me up I'd love a read). When you actual state well reasoned and well thought-out reasons for why we are supposedly so terrible, then I will pay you great attention, respect and consider your opinion. As of now, it has little value to me and I'll not waste any more time with this discussion.

 

[ollysaints1]

It was a very realistic and well reasoned post, we are nowhere near as bad as people think, yes, the results have not been great but we have only been outplayed on 2 occasions this season . If we can eradicate giving away cheap goals then we will start to pick up points and gain confidence rapidly, we are a decent footballing team with plenty of goals in the team, there is plenty to play for yet.

Wow, you make it sound so easy. The thing is, as things stand, none of the things you have suggested will help us get points are likely to happen.

 

[ollysaints1]

No because those are just basic non-contextual stats that you can read from any chumps footballing blog (Possibly yours? Link me up I'd love a read). When you actual state well reasoned and well thought-out reasons for why we are supposedly so terrible, then I will pay you great attention, respect and consider your opinion. As of now, it has little value to me and I'll not waste any more time with this discussion.

i dont need or want my opinion to matter to you, it doesn't matter. However i dont see how more well reasoned the points i have made can be?. I never said we were a terrible team, but we are a long way off being good enough to stay up. When we lose the majority of those next 6 games, i think people will start to see where im coming from.
What makes people think things will be diffrent in the future and we will somehow magically win these games?

 

[Saints_Alive]

Wow, you make it sound so easy. The thing is, as things stand, none of the things you have suggested will help us get points are likely to happen.

In your opinion........my opinion is that we have PLENTY to play for....we will pick up points against the likes of Norwich,QPR and Swansea and we will win games at home.

 

[Qwerty]

Thing is, and this may have been mentioned, Nigel's role is so much more than what happens on the pitch. All the changes that have happened in the last two years he has been a part of, some that we have seen and many more that we have not, I can't see any reason why Nigel leaving and someone else being parachuted to start from scratch would help improve the club. In fact imagine the situation where Nigel did go, and we didn't improve, it would just be a travesty. No, I am almost certain he will be here for many years yet.




PS Optimism is free and available to all, you are welcome to give it a go. It might have helped that I didn't watch/listen to the game today

 

[ollysaints1]

In your opinion........my opinion is that we have PLENTY to play for....we will pick up points against the likes of Norwich,QPR and Swansea and we will win games at home.

o fcourse there is plenty to play for. But if we have struggled this much in the forst 8 games, what is going to make the next 30 any diffrent?

 

[SaintJabie]

I wouldn't get rid of Nige just yet, though some of his decisions are a little strange: not playing Lambert, getting Sharp in then loaning him out... It'd be nice if he explained a few of the decisions to the fans.

I kind of hoped we'd turned the corner when we pulled back a draw in the last game. Sure we blew the win, but snatching a draw back might have given the lads the confidence that they sorely need.

I think it was the two goals in quick succession that really killed us off today. Lala got us back in it, but the penalty came shortly afterwards and with it, my hope for the game. 4-1 doesn't really do us justice (we had more possession and shots on target than they did according to the stats on the BBC), but you stay up with results not the quality of your football.

A real danger with a leaky defence is that teams see us as a soft touch, and that "confidence" strikers in a bad patch get a boost when they see us as the next match in the fixture list.

If we do go down - and sadly that's a very real possibility now - my worry is that we'll lose some of the more talented members of the squad: Lala, Morgan, JWP.

 

[Saints_Alive]

o fcourse there is plenty to play for. But if we have struggled this much in the forst 8 games, what is going to make the next 30 any diffrent?

But we have struggled only in keeping the ball out of our net (due to individual errors), not on the balance of play and chances, if we can cut out the individual errors then we have a good chance of picking up a few wins, especially at home.

 

[ollysaints1]

But we have struggled only in keeping the ball out of our net (due to individual errors), not on the balance of play and chances, if we can cut out the individual errors then we have a good chance of picking up a few wins, especially at home.

"we have struggled only in keeping the ball out of our net" laughable

 

[Saints_Alive]

"we have struggled only in keeping the ball out of our net" laughable

How else have we struggled then Cloughie?

 

[ollysaints1]

How else have we struggled then Cloughie?[/QU

i was more suggesting that you seem to have underestimated the importance of keeping the ball out of our net. whether thats the only thing you struggle with or not it is the most important part of the game.

 

[Saints_Alive]

I know the importance of keeping the ball out of the net, but anyone that has watched us closely will know that we have given away cheap goals that could've been avoided, we haven't been outplayed. Mistakes can coached out of a team with the emphasis on concentration, I would be much more worried if we were only getting 30% possession stats and not creating chances.

 

[ollysaints1]

I know the importance of keeping the ball out of the net, but anyone that has watched us closely will know that we have given away cheap goals that could've been avoided, we haven't been outplayed. Mistakes can coached out of a team with the emphasis on concentration, I would be much more worried if we were only getting 30% possession stats and not creating chances.

exactly, If mistakes that the staff are well aware of haven't all ready been panned out, then what makes you think they ever will be? (my entire point that you seem to not understand)

 

[Mikey]

I know the importance of keeping the ball out of the net, but anyone that has watched us closely will know that we have given away cheap goals that could've been avoided, we haven't been outplayed. Mistakes can coached out of a team with the emphasis on concentration, I would be much more worried if we were only getting 30% possession stats and not creating chances.

You're wasting your time mate, save it for people who deserve it.

 

[hotbovril]

i dont need or want my opinion to matter to you, it doesn't matter. However i dont see how more well reasoned the points i have made can be?. I never said we were a terrible team, but we are a long way off being good enough to stay up. When we lose the majority of those next 6 games, i think people will start to see where im coming from.
What makes people think things will be diffrent in the future and we will somehow magically win these games?

And with a single, finger in the wind pronouncement, you have won me over. Please can you provide advance notice of other forthcoming events? I'd love to take advantage of a bookie or two and, if necessary, make sure that I'm nowhere near any impending natural disasters. And you know what? I think I can already see where you're coming from. It's a brown place isn't it? Kind of like a passage?