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  1. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Might be a reason to get into it to begin with, as in a 'if I sell food for that guy then no **** will touch me' sort of thing, but the main factor will be the money they're making and in particular at how easily they're making it.

    There will of course be some who are like you describe and do it for the lifestyle but I doubt it's the majority.
     
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  2. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    I don't think there is one fix it all and you won't reach everyone

    However I do think that the policies designed are usually way out if touch. Not every drug dealer in the past was in it for the kicks (I believe the new generation are).

    The approach can't be singular, it's multi faceted. So today for example the "accurate picture" is we are done as a manufacturing base and zero hours contracts etc won't help
     
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  3. The Ginger Marks

    The Ginger Marks Ma Mo

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    Thought about this for a while i.e. accuracy. I'd like to take it further, In Thailand we get Indian dubbed in thai soaps which I watch reservedly at one particular bar.
    I got to wondering that God in his many names is always portrayed dripping in gold, pearls and precious stones.

    Whereas I know this is television but do tthey really think that god/s live in big mansions and it's the gold that makes them elite? God/ Jesu is more often seen portrayed as a man with nothing but love and teaching . Have people become shallow to believe that substance and clothes make a difference?
     
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  4. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    It is just my opinion, but I think increasingly it's the lifestyle. I think the culture now is one of playing the game
     
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  5. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    With young people maybe, say 13-21. Most older than that then it's all about the money I'd say. Growing up in certain deprived areas though I'm sure it's seen as an easy way to go due to peer pressure and keeping safe etc.

    A large part of the people that sell light/dark at the street level are young impressionable kids or at least were when they were 'recruited'.
     
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  6. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    I'm not so sure. I reckon for the younger ones especially it's more about reputation, peer pressure, trying to be a cool kid. The money bit comes more important the older they get.
     
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    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Yeah Id go with that

    Which highlights that a one for all approach can't work

    As a kid of 16 I would get £10-15 a night working and that was big money. I only did 2 nights

    As an adult I was on £30-40 a night doing 5 and it was crap

    What it doesn't explain imo is the well off kids. In stoke there are areas of deprivation and kids hustling for a pound here and there and getting I to trouble

    But go to areas like trentham and the kids are dealing cocaine and drinking spirits using daddies money but not getting into half the trouble with the law
     
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  8. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    You'd only last 2 days anyway
     
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  9. J๏E..

    J๏E.. The King of Hearts

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    That's Sunderland though, like Co. Durham, the invasion back in the 50's never happened, the locals wouldn't let it happen..<ok>
     
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  10. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    What do you mean by invasion?
     
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  11. J๏E..

    J๏E.. The King of Hearts

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    The immigrant influx, never happened North of Leeds..
     
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  12. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Why would you call it an invasion though?

    I'd say immigration has largely been positive for this country, the majority come here to work and make a better lives for themselves.

    You'll obviously get criminals as you do with anyone, we've got plenty of ****s of our own too and the increase in knife crime etc. is hardly down to immigration.
     
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  13. J๏E..

    J๏E.. The King of Hearts

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    People always have to believe in something and pray for something, we stub our toe now we say FFS, 40 years ago they would say Jesus.. For me the way of the west is to move away from religious scriptures of the past, our lives are so not Christian if you get my drift? In the East though, the movement to the Orthodox and Muslims to their 5th Century ideology is getting stronger..<ok>
     
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  14. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    He probably meant influx..It's only been lately that we have seen the influx, and that is partly down to Durham, Sunderland and Newcastle having massive unis.
     
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    I'd call it an invasion by politicians that never grasped the reality after the war. If you are going to bring people into your Country, give them a life they could only dream about, albeit after such a war, then choose wisely. We didn't, we did what was desperate and from that day we have created the malfunctioning Country we have today. Back in the first generation late 60's there were programmes like 'Love Thy Neighbour', Charlie Williams (Black comic) used to crack fun at the whities.. Now, you walk around blind, avoiding contact to strangers in the street, it could be a knife or a racial lawsuit.... reality..
     
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  16. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Apologies mate I misunderstood your post, agree with a lot of what you've put there though <ok>
     
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    HRH Custard VC National Car Park Attendant

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    My oldest wants to be a plumber
     
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  18. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    A license to print money. All the trades are these days. Good on him.
     
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    Get him gas safe registered etc and he can print his own money
     
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  20. HRH Custard VC

    HRH Custard VC National Car Park Attendant

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    Better than a plumber?
     
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