Aaron Ramsey

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Hahahaha. According to Bendtner its:

Bendtner >>>>>>>>> The Rest not worth considering

Oh and I agree with your list but switching Wilshere for Rosicky maybe.

So agree with switching Rosicky with Wilshere. Rosicky is one of our most technically gifted player before carzola arrived. Its just a shame that both age and injuries has got the best of him.
 
Let's not get carried away with Ramsey. He's a good player in some good form, let him get a few seasons under his belt playing at a significantly higher level before comparing him to Bale. Bale is one of the best players in the world, Ramsey isn't one of the best midfielders in the Prem, let alone for Arsenal.

For real? I don't see anything special that midfielders like Gerrard, lampard or Carrick does that Ramsey isn't doing now. He might not be as technically sound as them but he knows his strengths and he uses it so well and wouldn't swap him for any player in the world, not even Ronaldo or Messi.

The guy is such a joy to watch..
 
Let's not get carried away with Ramsey. He's a good player in some good form, let him get a few seasons under his belt playing at a significantly higher level before comparing him to Bale. Bale is one of the best players in the world, Ramsey isn't one of the best midfielders in the Prem, let alone for Arsenal.

For real? I don't see anything special that midfielders like Gerrard, lampard or Carrick does that Ramsey isn't doing now. He might not be as technically sound as them but he knows his strengths and he uses it so well and wouldn't swap him for any player in the world, not even Ronaldo or Messi.

The guy is such a joy to watch..

Yeah, it's always fun to watch one of our players lose possession, give away free kicks and penalties, get booked etc.
 
Same as every other player.
Won the ball, one of the highest passing accuracies, most tackles in the Prem so far, our top scorer, game winning goal tonight and only conceded the Pen from a BS decision

1. He's our top scorer because we don't have a real striker. We have a male model masquerading as a footballer playing upfront
2. Anyone could have scored that goal tonight
3. It was a penalty in my book. But then i'm not biased when it comes to ref decisions.
 
1. He's our top scorer because we don't have a real striker. We have a male model masquerading as a footballer playing upfront
2. Anyone could have scored that goal tonight
3. It was a penalty in my book. But then i'm not biased when it comes to ref decisions.

1. Yeah ok then mate. League's top scores <laugh> **** off with your fake negative bullshit
2. Then why the **** did no one else score that goal?
3. He gets the ball first and guy goes down and ref gives a penalty.
 
1. Yeah ok then mate. League's top scores <laugh> **** off with your fake negative bullshit
2. Then why the **** did no one else score that goal?
3. He gets the ball first and guy goes down and ref gives a penalty.

1. Daniel Sturridge is the top scorer, but don't let facts get in the way of your argument
2. Because nobody else happened to be in that position at that time.
3. He follows through on the player, hence a penalty.
 
1. Daniel Sturridge is the top scorer, but don't let facts get in the way of your argument
2. Because nobody else happened to be in that position at that time.
3. He follows through on the player, hence a penalty.


1) Actually Giroud, Benteke and Sturridge are all tied for top scorer on 4 goals in the league. So Giroud is top scorer, just joint top scorer.

2) It was a good goal after a strong run, don't try to put a negative spin on everything and 6 goals in 7 games suggests it's not anyone who could score his goals but him steppng up.

3) For me he gets the ball and it isn't a penalty. Commentators, studio staff and Wenger all seemed to agree.
 
1. Daniel Sturridge is the top scorer, but don't let facts get in the way of your argument
2. Because nobody else happened to be in that position at that time.
3. He follows through on the player, hence a penalty.

1. He's top scorer. Nice try though.
2. Then why was nobody else putting themselves in that position? Ramsey has scored 6 goals from 7 SoG this season
3. He got the ball first. In that kind of challenge it shouldn't be a pen
 
I thought he was average today. Got his goal, but gave away a stupid penalty and his decision making wasn't great. Looks like he could do with a rest soon.
Agreed that it wasn't his best game, but the whole team was having problems. He still worked harder than most, and got some crucial tackles in. I was more disappointed with Flamini.

I don't know if there was something wrong with the pitch. Was it spongier/bouncier than usual? Players had a hard time controlling the ball.

The pitch was also massive, but thankfully their team wasn't as fit as ours, so it hurt them more. They were dead on their feet by 75 minutes. Ramsey just strolled through them.
 
Agreed that it wasn't his best game, but the whole team was having problems. He still worked harder than most, and got some crucial tackles in. I was more disappointed with Flamini.

I don't know if there was something wrong with the pitch. Was it spongier/bouncier than usual? Players had a hard time controlling the ball.

The pitch was also massive, but thankfully their team wasn't as fit as ours, so it hurt them more. They were dead on their feet by 75 minutes. Ramsey just strolled through them.

You are one of the most frustrating posters on here. I think you must be the only fan in the world that can be "disappointed" with performances, after an away win in the CL. Your head seems to be in the right place, because you qualify your overall impression, with some great points, but your mood is always so negative. Can't you just lighten up a little? - Please?
 
So you're assuming when he was rubbish for ages that was 'form', but now he's been good for not such a long time that's 'class'?

For all you know his natural 'class' could be to be rubbish, but that he's just having a temporary period of great form? ;)

actually i think he is a good player showing great form [following on from injuries]. if he continues to show good form he could transform into permanent class.

sadly the opposite could be said of Jack Wilshere - he is great player who is recently only showing good/moderate form [following on from injuries] :smiley:
 
You are one of the most frustrating posters on here. I think you must be the only fan in the world that can be "disappointed" with performances, after an away win in the CL. Your head seems to be in the right place, because you qualify your overall impression, with some great points, but your mood is always so negative. Can't you just lighten up a little? - Please?

I think i speak for Arsegun when i say that you're a . He was being positive about the result, yet you still feel the need to belittle him for being realistic.
 
I briefly tried to weigh the positives and negatives of the performance. If that pisses some people off, I'd say it does more to discredit their perspective than mine.
 
Aaron Ramsey: Arsene Wenger praises Arsenal midfielder's 'spirit'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24176461

Aaron Ramsey's excellent start to the season is the product of his "obsession" with improvement, according to Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger.

"He has a great spirit and he has an obsession - he wants always to be better," said Wenger.

There is a basic rule in the game that if you have a big injury before the age of 20 you come back and redevelop completely normally," Wenger said.

"I was not too worried but you never know how deep the impact is psychologically. He had a little resistance to go into the fights for a long, long time - but now he is over it."

"He had a difficult period in the middle of last season when people became impatient with him and he lost confidence," Wenger added.

"Sometimes you give the players a little rest, they can rebuild that confidence in their game and come back stronger and that is what happened to him.

"I always thought he would score goals if he improved his technical quality because you always saw him in good positions in the box."

Good insight into Ramsey. Sounds like a true fighter and i'm happy for him and it's great for Arsenal!
 
Aaron Ramsey: Arsene Wenger praises Arsenal midfielder's 'spirit'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24176461

Aaron Ramsey's excellent start to the season is the product of his "obsession" with improvement, according to Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger.

"He has a great spirit and he has an obsession - he wants always to be better," said Wenger.

There is a basic rule in the game that if you have a big injury before the age of 20 you come back and redevelop completely normally," Wenger said.

"I was not too worried but you never know how deep the impact is psychologically. He had a little resistance to go into the fights for a long, long time - but now he is over it."

"He had a difficult period in the middle of last season when people became impatient with him and he lost confidence," Wenger added.

"Sometimes you give the players a little rest, they can rebuild that confidence in their game and come back stronger and that is what happened to him.

"I always thought he would score goals if he improved his technical quality because you always saw him in good positions in the box."

Good insight into Ramsey. Sounds like a true fighter and i'm happy for him and it's great for Arsenal!

This is an interesting comment, far from 'lighting a fire under his ass' it seemed that the constant berating actually negatively affected his confidence.
 
This is an interesting comment, far from 'lighting a fire under his ass' it seemed that the constant berating actually negatively affected his confidence.
Though, the next sentence explains how he rebuilt his confidence and came back stronger.

Regardless, I'd rather we stopped this irrelevant point scoring. Can't we just be happy with a playing finally coming good, and stop trying to get one over on each other?