Off Topic 2019 GE

[FulwellBri]

2 weeks to go and if polls are right the beginning of the end of the NHS.
A health system that even today, despite the best efforts of the tories remains in many ways the envy of the world ( maybe oz, New Zealand and Canada may care to differ ).
Make no mistake trump has promised the usa drug companies and private health mobs can get their snouts in the trough. Bojo will say this will be mitigated by a trade deal with usa which is all going to be weighted in usa's favour.
In a decade, the destruction of NHS, universal credit, what next full fee paying tertiary education?
Beggars belief that people who will stand to lose the most from brexit could vote for this incessant congenital liar.
The lies and 'unkeepable' promises perpetrated by this overprivilidged fat dandy are a stain on our democracy. His sort, like trump, Erdogan, Putin are no better than Hitler and mussolini in their undisguised hunger for absolute power.
Oh well!

 

[Somebodys pinched my sombrero]

Has ANYONE got any proof of Johnson selling off the NHS? Johnson says he’s not. Corbyn keeps waving a wad of papers about saying he’s got the proof, but is it not in his own interests to print what is in there? Or is he talking ****e?

 

[cumbrianmackem]

Corbyn has been talking ****e all his political life so he's not likely to change any time soon.
As for the NHS sell off, it's had bits lopped off it for years and the Private sector helping out for a price of course, so this idea that Donald Trump and Johnson are cooking up a plan that'll cost the country millions in extra drugs costs is complete nonsense, if Corbyn has the proof let's all see it, but just like his stand on brexit he's sat on the fence that long his backside is full of splinters.

 

[Somebodys pinched my sombrero]

Perhaps it’s the same kind of “proof” that Blair had on the weapons of mass destruction?
I’ve never voted Conservative in my life, but I’m sure as hell not going to vote for Labour.

 

[Sunderpitt]

I was out delivering a few Labour leaflets yesterday, a neighbour in early 40s, voted remain but is going to vote Bonko...

Re-nationalisation of natural monopolies..ie public utilities, rail, water, mail etc that privatisation has made a mess of..is popular, so is building more council houses.

What is not popular is Corbyn!

 

[Somebodys pinched my sombrero]

Correct. Why don’t the labour members realise that while he is leading they haven’t got a hope in hell of winning. In fact I think they’ll suffer huge losses in this area. Whether you voted leave or not, the region as a whole voted leave, but the labour MP’s voted to remain. How can they vote for them now?

 

[farnboromackem]

I'm so interested in how our constituency will vote this time. Graham Morris did everything he could to block Brexit, against the will of the majority of his constituents. If he is re-elected I'll be stunned.

I'm really unsure about who to vote for as I want Brexit done, but I cringe at the thought of voting Tory.

 

[Somebodys pinched my sombrero]

My sentiments entirely.

 

[gelders pie]

Mostly Johnson v Corbyn on this thread. Politics aside , are there any Swinson fans on here. Everyone I speak to , like me, find her nauseating, arrogant , condescending and with an even greater appearance of self serving than all other politcians.

p.s. she and the lib nondems are the first off my list

 

[clockstander]

Andrew Neal's savaging of Corbyn was disgraceful, and a set up, just like all this anti Zionist piffle, its all done to cover the real issue, the grab for power and money. To believe that Bonko wont renege on his promises and that the NHS is safe in his hands just beggars belief. What fools we all are to trust these cheating bullies to do anything but line their own pockets.

 

[Somebodys pinched my sombrero]

Corbyn set himself up for a savaging by not having a clue what he was talking about. I only caught the last ten minutes. In that time he said he’d pay the waspi women out of the parties reserves. One minute later he admitted they had nowhere near that amount and couldn’t do it.
Next subject was to defend the Hammas (or whoever) terrorist leader who the Americans killed. He said he would have arrested him. He had a suicide belt on ffs. What he did say was he would have tried to understand his situation, and why was he driven to support Hammas in the first place ffs.
How anyone in their right minds wants him and Diane Abbott running the country is beyond me. (She is happy today though, her IQ test came back negative)

 

[clockstander]

The point is that Corbyn and Abbott wont run the country, labour believe in democracy not autocracy.

 

[Somebodys pinched my sombrero]

The point is that Corbyn and Abbott wont run the country, labour believe in democracy not autocracy.

Really? They wouldn’t accept them democratic vote to leave?

 

[cumbrianmackem]

The point is that Corbyn and Abbott wont run the country, labour believe in democracy not autocracy.

Clocky....I've tried to keep away from this election thread but that is the daftest thing I've ever heard.
No offence intended.

 

[clockstander]

None taken.

 

[clockstander]

Really? They wouldn’t accept them democratic vote to leave?

I honestly don't think people knew enough about the issues involved, and neither did the politicians that asked the question.

 

[Somebodys pinched my sombrero]

Agree with that, but there was plenty of views put forward at the time. I voted leave because the leave camp put forward a better argument than remain. (I wasn’t bothered either way tbh). If we’d left when we should have, I personally think the country would have survived the initial problems and be standing firmly on our own devices.
What does annoy me though is that democracy has not been followed and I’m now firmly in the leave camp. What’s the point of voting for anything ever again otherwise?

 

[clockstander]

No point at all if you dont know what your voting for, that is the point I am making.

 

[Class of 73]

The point is that Corbyn and Abbott wont run the country, labour believe in democracy not autocracy.

Aye, you are right there......it’ll be mr John Trotsky McDonnell. As for Dianne Abbott, God help us all if she was given power.

Have you noticed that she has been kept well clear of the public eye? She is, when her mouth opens, a gift to any opposition Party.

 

[Somebodys pinched my sombrero]

No point at all if you dont know what your voting for, that is the point I am making.

Again, I understand your view. The point I’m making is, I voted to leave, and it hasn’t happened. I knew what I was voting for. Didn’t fully know the risks, but nobody did.