Somebodys pinched my sombrero
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To have someone that high up in government is bloody scary.
Off Topic 2019 GE
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And you are right there, but what about Rebecca Long Bailey compared to Micheal Gove, you can go on forever scoring points on individuals its pointless.
There is no proof
we have NHS scare stories ad nauseum and none of them come true. The only thing we know is that if we keep on inviting millions of people into our country the nhs will definitely fall over
We dont have a bottomless pit of money and it is the national health service not the international health service
as for who runs it, no one cares bar the left wing alarmists. All people are bothered about is that it is a well run and efficient service that is free at the point of need
I shall be voting Tory and hope for the left wing being wiped out
What absolute tosh!
Neil only asked the questions, the answers (or lack of them) were what resulted in Corbyn then being, quiite rightly imho, ridiculed in the press and on other media.
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I would enjoy a debate between those two and I would listen to both sides of the debate.
Dianne Abbott is a known liability, she has problems walking because her foot is always in her mouth. That is why she is kept away from proper debate, yet Corbyn keeps her in his shadow cabinet......a truly frightening thought that she would, if Corbyn became PM, be made a Minister of State. Didn’t she also send her child(ren?) to private school?
I see her as a bumbling incompetent hypocrite.
fake news fake account, don't believe a word of that, Corbyn is the one who wants to prosecute servicemen
Somebodys pinched my sombrero
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He’ll be investigating our archers at the battle of Hastings on account their arrows were too sharp.
Liar Liar pants on fire
Boris Johnson gave a wide-ranging interview to the BBC's Andrew Marr programme, focusing on security but also covering Brexit, and the NHS, as well as the plans of the Labour Party. Here are his most eye-catching claims fact-checked.
Claim 1: The government is putting extra money into counter-terrorist policing
Discussing measures to tackle terrorism in the wake of Friday's London Bridge attacks, Mr Johnson said: "We've obviously invested a great deal in counter-terrorism in the Spending Review. We put another £160m into counter-terrorism."
In September, Boris Johnson's government announced its spending plans for 2020-21. These only included increasing funding for counter-terrorism in line with inflation.
Those plans also include a pledge to continue for another year "the additional £160m announced at Budget 2018."
In fact, Budget 2018 only increased counter-terrorism funding by £59m or 8% on the previous year, as this written answer in the House of Commons shows.
The £160m is the difference between spending plans announced in 2015 and the figure eventually spent in 2019-20.
Claim 2: "Jeremy Corbyn has said he would disband MI5"
BBC News has asked the Conservatives for the evidence behind this claim, and is still awaiting a response. Labour has denied that Jeremy Corbyn wants to disband MI5.
The claim may relate to a campaign in 2015, run by a group called Socialist Campaign for a Labour Victory, which issued a statement with a number of demands including "disband MI5".
Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell is still listed as a signatory on that website. He did admit to signing it according to press reports, though he claimed to have done so in error, and did not support disbanding MI5.
Current shadow Home Secretary Diane Abbott signed a parliamentary motion in 1989 calling for the abolition of MI5, but has since changed her views.
Claim 3: "We have a Queen's Speech that was blocked by Parliament."
In fact the Queen's Speech was passed by 16 votes on 24 October.
Claim 4: The government was already moving to stop automatic early release
Mr Johnson said: "I also said in August that we would no longer allow the automatic early release of serious and violent offenders. And what we are doing now, is there is a bill that was in the Queen's Speech to prevent automatic early release."
The Queen's Speech included a Sentencing Bill, which would change "the automatic release point from halfway to the two-thirds point for adult offenders serving sentences of four years or more for serious violent or sexual offences".
Offenders considered "dangerous" already receive an Extended Determinate Sentence, of which around 250 were imposed last year. They are not considered for release until they have served two-thirds of their sentences.
Claim 5: The largest NHS investments in modern memory
Boris Johnson said: "...we are so determined to make huge investments in the NHS. The largest in modern memory. £34bn."
The Conservatives' plans do involve increasing funding for the NHS in England in cash terms by £34bn. However, accounting for inflation, the real increase would be £20.5bn by 2023-24.
At a 3.2% annual increase, it is less than the 6% average achieved by Labour governments between 1997 and 2010, according to the Health Foundation.
And most of that extra spending was already announced by the government before the election. The Conservative manifesto only pledges to increase health spending in 2023-24 by £2.9bn - just a third of one per centage point more than was already planned, according to the Institute for Fiscal Studies.
Boris Johnson gave a wide-ranging interview to the BBC's Andrew Marr programme, focusing on security but also covering Brexit, and the NHS, as well as the plans of the Labour Party. Here are his most eye-catching claims fact-checked.
Claim 1: The government is putting extra money into counter-terrorist policing
Discussing measures to tackle terrorism in the wake of Friday's London Bridge attacks, Mr Johnson said: "We've obviously invested a great deal in counter-terrorism in the Spending Review. We put another £160m into counter-terrorism."
In September, Boris Johnson's government announced its spending plans for 2020-21. These only included increasing funding for counter-terrorism in line with inflation.
Those plans also include a pledge to continue for another year "the additional £160m announced at Budget 2018."
In fact, Budget 2018 only increased counter-terrorism funding by £59m or 8% on the previous year, as this written answer in the House of Commons shows.
The £160m is the difference between spending plans announced in 2015 and the figure eventually spent in 2019-20.
Claim 2: "Jeremy Corbyn has said he would disband MI5"
BBC News has asked the Conservatives for the evidence behind this claim, and is still awaiting a response. Labour has denied that Jeremy Corbyn wants to disband MI5.
The claim may relate to a campaign in 2015, run by a group called Socialist Campaign for a Labour Victory, which issued a statement with a number of demands including "disband MI5".
Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell is still listed as a signatory on that website. He did admit to signing it according to press reports, though he claimed to have done so in error, and did not support disbanding MI5.
Current shadow Home Secretary Diane Abbott signed a parliamentary motion in 1989 calling for the abolition of MI5, but has since changed her views.
Claim 3: "We have a Queen's Speech that was blocked by Parliament."
In fact the Queen's Speech was passed by 16 votes on 24 October.
Claim 4: The government was already moving to stop automatic early release
Mr Johnson said: "I also said in August that we would no longer allow the automatic early release of serious and violent offenders. And what we are doing now, is there is a bill that was in the Queen's Speech to prevent automatic early release."
The Queen's Speech included a Sentencing Bill, which would change "the automatic release point from halfway to the two-thirds point for adult offenders serving sentences of four years or more for serious violent or sexual offences".
Offenders considered "dangerous" already receive an Extended Determinate Sentence, of which around 250 were imposed last year. They are not considered for release until they have served two-thirds of their sentences.
Claim 5: The largest NHS investments in modern memory
Boris Johnson said: "...we are so determined to make huge investments in the NHS. The largest in modern memory. £34bn."
The Conservatives' plans do involve increasing funding for the NHS in England in cash terms by £34bn. However, accounting for inflation, the real increase would be £20.5bn by 2023-24.
At a 3.2% annual increase, it is less than the 6% average achieved by Labour governments between 1997 and 2010, according to the Health Foundation.
And most of that extra spending was already announced by the government before the election. The Conservative manifesto only pledges to increase health spending in 2023-24 by £2.9bn - just a third of one per centage point more than was already planned, according to the Institute for Fiscal Studies.
Ask anyone who has worked in the NHS over the last 10 years how it has gone. I would be bloody surprised if you got anywhere near 25% stating how positively the Tories have run it. BJ has been routinely challenged and booed when attending hospitals. I work in Education, don't get me started on Gove and how the Tories have ****ed this institution up royally too.
Er, these "millions" of people are already educated so there's no need to pay for their schooling, they start work immediately and so contribute to society straight away through tax & N.I. contributions.
Yes, more people = more pressure on the NHS, housing etc. But as they're paying more tax, the easy solution is to take on more NHS staff, build some council houses, etc. Easy.
The Tories are more interested in cutting taxes for the rich though, and I see you quoted that rich arsehole stockbroker Farage "the international health service" whose politics boil down to - "it's all the fault of immigrants!"
I agree Labour is anything but perfect, in fact I've spent most of my life moaning about the Labour Party, but in comparison to posh Eton-educated ****heads who have lived a completely different life to anyone on this site (however we vote) and think it's funny to burn £50 notes in homeless people's faces. Well, no comparison. Vote Labour..
One of the most important elections ever seen and one of the top Tories is in hiding ...
... no doubt Jacob Rees Mogg will come out grinning and pontificating, from his foxhole, when the bullets stop flying.
Whereas he should really hang his head in shame.
... no doubt Jacob Rees Mogg will come out grinning and pontificating, from his foxhole, when the bullets stop flying.
Whereas he should really hang his head in shame.
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You won't be surprised at this answer but we would still rather vote for liar liar pants on fire rather than terrorists terrorists you guys are my friend.
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