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And to think, this forum's still better than Autosport...
It wasn't an apology, it was a note saying how we should try co-exist. But to be honest I really don't care. If you want to burn bridges here, then have at it...
Here's the message I sent you so you can read it here
To be honest I just want to move on from this. He ignored team orders and he can't go back and change it. Actually what he did today could be good for Webber. It might just give him that extra motivation for a title push. For Vettel could this affect him mentally? Whatever happens it has setup this season beautifully for an intense rivalry.I don't remember seeing this posted yet so I'll throw this up for you guys to see. Pulled it straight off the official Formula 1 website. Seems like Vettel seems genuinely upset about the decision he made.
Sebastian Vettel Q&A: I shouldn't have passed Mark
It was a thrilling battle to watch, but one that should never have happened had Red Bull team principal Christian Horner had his way. With tyres proving marginal at Sepang on Sunday, Sebastian Vettel was expected to hold station behind race leader Mark Webber. He didn't, but it was a move he seemed to regret almost as soon as the helmets came off after the race...
Q: Sebastian, it was a tough race - you've won, but now you have to apologise for the victory in front of the eyes of the world. How do you feel right now?
Sebastian Vettel: Not really fantastic. If I were given the chance to do it again (differently) I would. I can only repeat myself: I've made a mistake and I have to apologise to Mark. What I did was not correct, but had I been aware of it in that very moment I wouldn't have attacked the way I did and wouldn't have taken so much risk. After all that I would say that it was an excellent result for the team and we can be proud of that. Today we've been able to handle the tyres better than anybody else and that got us into the position to fight over the win.
Q: Wasn't there a call that you should stay in P2?
SV: That is correct, but I didn't mean to ignore the call - otherwise why would I take so much risk to pass him?
Q: Then why did you?
SV: Because I messed up? I guess also the team wasn't too happy with what I did today and I will try to explain it later. I did get the message, but no action followed because I misunderstood. In the past in such a situation we tended to fight, but these days with the tyre situation - not knowing how long they would last - it was an extremely big risk that could have resulted in both of us being out of the race and not finishing 1-2. Fights like that are huge risks for the tyres these days - we both could have ruined them within two to three laps. I put myself above this decision today, but I didn't mean too
Q: Michael Schumacher probably would have done exactly the same and he is a seven-time world champion. Maybe this is part of your personal development...
SV: Ah, not so sure. The main lesson for me today was that I should have acted differently. We talk about such things, sure, but I wasn't really aware of it in the race as otherwise I wouldn't have taken on so much risk. When I took off my helmet and saw that Mark didn't look too happy I talked to him and he came straight to the point. That was when it struck me like lightning. I cannot say that I am proud right now.
Q: But to win the championship you have got to win races. Was today the most difficult win?
SV: You can find many words for such a situation and as I said before, if I could undo it I would and settle for P2. It will not be easy to fall asleep tonight.
Q: What about Alonso running into the back of you on the opening lap? How did you see that?
SV: In that moment I didn't really know what was going on. I felt a hit, looked in my mirror and saw that Fernando was pretty close. I looked again to check that I hadn't got a puncture, which I hadn't. That was it for me. I think he had an issue with his front wing - that was pretty much all I realised and all I saw of him.
Thoughts?
To be honest I just want to move on from this. He ignored team orders and he can't go back and change it. Actually what he did today could be good for Webber. It might just give him that extra motivation for a title push. For Vettel could this affect him mentally? Whatever happens it has setup this season beautifully for an intense rivalry.
You have no interest sarge it's the 3rd time you have tried to say you are sorry to me (Over 2 years) and it doesn't take long for you to personally insult me again and to start back from square one.
If you want a truce keep out of my way and I'll keep out of your way, it's that simple. Thank you but I'm not interested anymore with healing bridges, I don't intend to stay around this forum for much longer since I'm suffering with a cronic back problem over the last few months and it put life back into perspective for me. My ideals will clash with everybody here but I don't like being attacked personally and I wont bloody stand for it. I've been really been biting my lip with you sarge over the last couple of months with you taking my words out of context.
In a way it was interesting seeing new people come around and in a way the forum seemed happier for it and I'm glad, so I won't be around much longer. So this isn't my final hoorah! but because my buddy iceman was saying you all missed me and you wanted me back, I just wanted to let you all know (out of respect), thanks but no thanks!
This forum will be better off without me, but I'm making that choice, not you, not the moderators, nobody!
Fair enoughOh believe me, I'd honestly rather move on as well. I posted that mostly for those who are on here right now to see it in case they hadn't already.
You have no interest sarge it's the 3rd time you have tried to say you are sorry to me (Over 2 years) and it doesn't take long for you to personally insult me again and to start back from square one.
If you want a truce keep out of my way and I'll keep out of your way, it's that simple. Thank you but I'm not interested anymore with healing bridges, I don't intend to stay around this forum for much longer since I'm suffering with a cronic back problem over the last few months and it put life back into perspective for me. My ideals will clash with everybody here but I don't like being attacked personally and I wont bloody stand for it. I've been really been biting my lip with you sarge over the last couple of months with you taking my words out of context.
In a way it was interesting seeing new people come around and in a way the forum seemed happier for it and I'm glad, so I won't be around much longer. So this isn't my final hoorah! but because my buddy iceman was saying you all missed me and you wanted me back, I just wanted to let you all know (out of respect), thanks but no thanks!
This forum will be better off without me, but I'm making that choice, not you, not the moderators, nobody!
"I'm not interested with pleas, goodbyes, fk you's, don't let the door hit you on the way out etc...
This was the best F1 forum I've been involved with but my interests have been "discontinued" now the forum has outgrown me. I'm not needed anymore and I'm actually intimidating members coming on, and no I have no interest in changing. I tried but people still view me in the 2011 phase and they still view me like a Seb ultra, no quarter given with any other driver. I tried, people didn't try to work with me back so I feel the relationship here is now pointless to continue with."
Silver, if Manny can still hack it on here, then you can.
He's dealt with a **** load worse than you have, but he knows what this forum is, a place for opinoins and respects it for that regardless of any opinions for/against what he thinks.
That you see that the forum has 'outgrown' you suggest more about you than the forum in general.
This forum is bigger than any one indivudal.


Mod time?
Mod time?
Disappointed Vettel's apologised, I was hoping he'd go completely rogue.
Masanari
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