Match Day Thread Hull City v Luton

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First half wasn't too bad yesterday a horrible own goal just after half time and we never looked like we were going to score all afternoon
 
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We spent just over £25m solely on transfer fees this season on the players we've brought in.

I'd argue that we could have spent £10m on somebody like Jay Stansfield and used the other £15m to bulk out the squad.

It isn't that we can't sign these players, it's that we don't, either because we piss about trying to negotiate terms for too long or because we just assume that the goals are going to come from elsewhere. In fact, we knew we didn't do right by our forward line because we brought in Pedro after the transfer window had closed, so somebody somewhere realised we cocked up.

We brought in both Crooks and Palmer, while also bringing in Matazo when we had Alzate, Mehlem, Puerta, Slater and Vaughan at the club being paid. It's the same with the goalkeeper situation, why make such a fuss about Pandur last season to the point where it openly caused an issue, only to bring in both Racciopi and Rushworth when TLT was apparently good enough to be second choice all along?

We have the money, we're just ****ing **** at planning and seemingly panic buy when we don't need to, leaving key areas short in quality.

Assuming we stay up and we have some cash to spend, two thirds of whatever is spent in the Summer should be on a marquee striker. The rest can be made up with loans and smaller fees.
I don’t disagree with that, but most of that is incidental to the situation with strikers. I mentioned Cannon for good reason, we offered a wedge for him (don’t know whether it was £10m, won’t have been far short) and he didn’t want to come. We just aren’t seen as being in that market after our summer’s changes and business.
That’s why we have to take chances with rough diamonds up front. We can’t afford or attract finished products.
 
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First half wasn't too bad yesterday a horrible own goal just after half time and we never looked like we were going to score all afternoon

I thought the first half was pretty poor to be honest. We created next to nothing, and that happens an awful lot at home.

My seat is behind the goal in the North stand which makes me hyper-aware of how seldom we score at that end. We've scored once in the North stand goal since the 4th January.

A huge part of our home form is this ongoing inability to score and go ahead in the first half. And almost every time it's the same script: we play with a level of control but don't create anything clear cut. We can only win at home when we find another gear in the second half. That is just too much of a handicap to be constantly carrying. We have to start being ruthless in the first halves of home games.

From a purely selfish point of view, it makes my membership particularly joyless because I barely ever see us score a goal I can make out with any clarity. Goals at the South stand end usually require a replay for me to make sense of what happened.
 
If we get relegated, the blame starts at the top, Acun needs to hold his hands up & say how he screwed up by:
1.Sacking Rosie
2. Employing Walter
3. Taking too long to decide Walter wasn’t working.

Yes, I admit, I defended Walter to a point, I still stand by it, as it was too soon to be changing, ultimately shouldn’t even have been manager in the first place, like Acun’s mate Shota, but even I could see that he needed to go after the Oxford game.
Acun needs to admit his mistakes!
 
If we get relegated, the blame starts at the top, Acun needs to hold his hands up & say how he screwed up by:
1.Sacking Rosie
2. Employing Walter
3. Taking too long to decide Walter wasn’t working.

Yes, I admit, I defended Walter to a point, I still stand by it, as it was too soon to be changing, ultimately shouldn’t even have been manager in the first place, like Acun’s mate Shota, but even I could see that he needed to go after the Oxford game.
Acun needs to admit his mistakes!

Totally forgot with my post how long it took. The fact that if Acun hadn’t been at the Wednesday game Walter probably would’ve stayed on a bit longer as well
 
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If we get relegated, the blame starts at the top, Acun needs to hold his hands up & say how he screwed up by:
1.Sacking Rosie
2. Employing Walter
3. Taking too long to decide Walter wasn’t working.

Yes, I admit, I defended Walter to a point, I still stand by it, as it was too soon to be changing, ultimately shouldn’t even have been manager in the first place, like Acun’s mate Shota, but even I could see that he needed to go after the Oxford game.
Acun needs to admit his mistakes!

This is completely pointless to bring up, but when we lost to Cardiff in February that made it mathematically impossible for us to equal our points total from last season. We would have needed to win or draw that game and win all 12 after it. Goes to show just how much better we were last season, even with missing out on the play-offs.
 
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Joseph getting flack for his transfer fee .. just remind me how much we've flushed down the pan on fkn Sinik ! Joseph is raw, he may or may not come good, but you can see the lad trying, Sinik on the other hand is a fkn disgrace.
How did his closed doors game go... anyone know...
 
First half wasn't too bad yesterday a horrible own goal just after half time and we never looked like we were going to score all afternoon
Not the first time we've conceded in the 1st minute of the second half at home this season....Happened three times I think....Lack of concentration from the ko...City still dozing after the halftime pint. 1st shot on goal 93 minutes. That's criminal.
 
Not the first time we've conceded in the 1st minute of the second half at home this season....Happened three times I think....Lack of concentration from the ko...City still dozing after the halftime pint. 1st shot on goal 93 minutes. That's criminal.
It was no lack of concentration yesterday though. It was an entirely freakish deflection.
 
It was no lack of concentration yesterday though. It was an entirely freakish deflection.
Not entirely in that Coyle should have made sure he cleared it over the top of Jones’s head, or to his side. It was a bad clearance under no real pressure. Coyle’s mistake without a doubt. Of course, 99 times out of 100 it wouldn’t have gone in, but with a decent clearance that small chance would have been eliminated.
 
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If, and that’s big if, we stay up then I think City fans need to seriously temper their expectations about next season. I’ve seen some comments on Twitter and on here that we could (or even should) be play-off contenders next season if we stay up.

Being realistic, the core of next season’s squad will be the core of what we have now more or less. I think most of us are expecting, hopefully, that the next transfer window will be relatively quiet without much overhaul or disruption. Barring a striker, some fullbacks and depth elsewhere, we don’t need to massively change the squad. So if we go into next season with the same core group of players we have now, I can see the same patterns we’re seeing now. As much as we’ve improved under Sellés compared to Walter, we’ve not really built much momentum or a strong run of form. Our form under Sellés is:

DLWLWLDWLWLLDWLWDWDL

As you can see, there aren’t any consecutive wins and it’s very inconsistent, which over the course of a full season would probably be a mid-table finish. I think that’s what we should expect next season (if we stay up that is). In the grand scheme of things, I’d settle for mid-table next season just for stability. Will Acun though?
 
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If, and that’s big if, we stay up then I think City fans need to seriously temper their expectations about next season. I’ve seen some comments on Twitter and on here that we could (or even should) be play-off contenders next season if we stay up.

Being realistic, the core of next season’s squad will be the core of what we have now more or less. I think most of us are expecting, hopefully, that the next transfer window will be relatively quiet without much overhaul or disruption. Barring a striker, some fullbacks and depth elsewhere, we don’t need to massively change the squad. So if we go into next season with the same core group of players we have now, I can see the same patterns we’re seeing now. As much as we’ve improved under Sellés compared to Walter, we’ve not really built much momentum or a strong run of form. Our form under Sellés is:

DLWLWLDWLWLLDWLWDWDL

As you can see, there aren’t any consecutive wins and it’s very inconsistent, which over the course of a full season would probably be a mid-table finish. I think that’s what we should expect next season (if we stay up that is). In the grand scheme of things, I’d settle for mid-table next season just for stability. Will Acun though?

I would take improvement next season, this squad is better than the position we are in. Like you say, a couple of shrewd additions, a proper striker and fight like hell to keep anybody from poaching the likes of Hughes or Pandur and I think we can comfortably knock Preston off the mid table perch.
 
I would take improvement next season, this squad is better than the position we are in. Like you say, a couple of shrewd additions, a proper striker and fight like hell to keep anybody from poaching the likes of Hughes or Pandur and I think we can comfortably knock Preston off the mid table perch.

I can’t see anybody poaching either of those players. Hughes has class but ultimately he’s been pretty crap, Pandur has been steady but not spectacular. Who is going to spend the money required for us to allow either of them to leave?
 
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I can’t see anybody poaching either of those players. Hughes has class but ultimately he’s been pretty crap, Pandur has been steady but not spectacular. Who is going to spend the money required for us to allow either of them to leave?

Realistically
No one
 
The regularly repeated opinion on here that this team / squad / structural management setup, is better than our league position would suggest and that we will be playoff challengers next season is laughable.


We're battling relegation for a reason. That reason being that we're one of the worst performers in this league.

We're down at the bottom because we can't score goals.

We're down at the bottom because our defence make too many calamitous errors.

We're down at the bottom because our midfield flatters to deceive.

We're down at the bottom because we've been unlucky with injuries.

We're down at the bottom because the owner made a poor managerial choice in the summer.

We're down at the bottom because we're inconsistent.

We're down at the bottom because our home form is crap.

We're down at the bottom because Sinik exists.


It doesn't matter.

We're down at the bottom because we're down at the bottom.

We'll remain down at the bottom until we start winning consistently.


I don't think we're capable of that.