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Media trained nonsense I’d imagine, mate.

Same with footballers that always have the same generic answers to questions. It’s why it’s always nice - even if sometimes you don’t like what you hear - the rare times some players just openly speaking their mind. Rose got a lot of **** back in the day for some of his interviews but some of them struck some home truths, likewise with Ekotto when he said he didn’t actually like football but it was a good job, there was a bit of a media frenzy over that but a lot of fans actually respected it. Pretty sure another footballer recently said similar, just can’t remember who.

I’d imagine managers are told to use specific words that the audience and fanbase can hopefully engage with on a positive note. It’s just as you’ve pointed out, we’ve heard the project stuff time and time again so it’s not really anything new. I do like Ange’s interviews and chats though, proper Aussie.

I think with Spurs fans in particular, we keep being told things will take time. But when will that thing actually arrive? Case in point with this window, the narrative is we’ll need a while to sort the squad and whilst that’s true, why do we often leave transfer windows feeling we could’ve at least done a bit more? As will be the case with regarding not replacing Kane.

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However, as I highlighted earlier, Liverpool have got rid of 5 midfielders, and signed 4 this summer. So where does this idea of it taking 3-4 windows to sort things out come from?
At this point it feels like some sort of delay tactic, keeping success on the pitch at arms length, and at a level where a levy is in his comfort zone.

I wish Ange all the best, but I literally cannot fathom how our transfer business after selling Kane has not been better than this.
 
On a slightly different note, is anyone else already sick of hearing about is how this is a “project”. Ange is the main culprit for this wording, and I don’t blame him as he’s clearly had a brief and he’s new. But it’s a bit of a kick in the nuts to be hearing this terminology, which basically translates to “things will take time”, especially as we went through this with Poch years ago, and as fans we’re seeing the start of something new simply due to poor decision making previously.

With our revenues and financial stability, we shouldn’t have to settle for something which feels like it’s going to take years to get back to where we were.
No, given the one thing our fanbase has been crying out for is a project manager comparable to Poch or Jol

Complaining about getting something we asked for? You can tell it's Deadline Day...
 
I think a lot of managers use it all the time to be fair. Certainly I believe Ange has a lot over the years IIRC from when I watched a lot of interviews of him when he was appointed. Poch, others use it a lot too. I think it’s one of those industry words that can be a bit meaningless when repeated so often.

Yeah as I said it’s just likely media training nonsense. I’m pretty sure Nuno and Conte spoke of a project at least once too!

Ange is enjoyable to listen to though outside of the generic stuff.

Aussie ‘Arry vibes.
 
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No, given the one thing our fanbase has been crying out for is a project manager comparable to Poch or Jol

Complaining about getting something we asked for? You can tell it's Deadline Day...

it’s not a complaint about finally having the infrastructure to get us playing the way we should be, or feeling like there’s some direction.
it’s the way that we’re always made to feel like success is in the future. But it’s always in the future.
 
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However, as I highlighted earlier, Liverpool have got rid of 5 midfielders, and signed 4 this summer. So where does this idea of it taking 3-4 windows to sort things out come from?
At this point it feels like some sort of delay tactic, keeping success on the pitch at arms length, and at a level where a levy is in his comfort zone.

I wish Ange all the best, but I literally cannot fathom how our transfer business after selling Kane has not been better than this.

Only one person to really blame, mate.

Striker aside the XI isn’t looking terrible don’t get me wrong and a lot of that is down to Ange already, but that striker situation really is horrendous. Relegation quality player replacing arguably the best in the world in the position, frightening drop in level which I think will cost us throughout the season.
 
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This.
However, as I highlighted earlier, Liverpool have got rid of 5 midfielders, and signed 4 this summer. So where does this idea of it taking 3-4 windows to sort things out come from?
At this point it feels like some sort of delay tactic, keeping success on the pitch at arms length, and at a level where a levy is in his comfort zone.

I wish Ange all the best, but I literally cannot fathom how our transfer business after selling Kane has not been better than this.

Keita and Ox left at the end of their contracts, Henderson is 33 and Fabinho made a money move to Saudi. I share your frustration around the lack of outgoings and the stall in the window post-Kane to now but to equate the Liverpool midfield situation to ours is a false equivalence IMO
 
This.
However, as I highlighted earlier, Liverpool have got rid of 5 midfielders, and signed 4 this summer. So where does this idea of it taking 3-4 windows to sort things out come from?
At this point it feels like some sort of delay tactic, keeping success on the pitch at arms length, and at a level where a levy is in his comfort zone.

I wish Ange all the best, but I literally cannot fathom how our transfer business after selling Kane has not been better than this.

To be fair, 2 of those midfielders went to Saudi for well over market value. If they don't sell Henderson and Fabinho for over inflated prices They probably wouldn't have spent £100m plus on a new midfield.
 
it’s not a complaint about finally having the infrastructure to get us playing the way we should be, or feeling like there’s some direction.
it’s the way that we’re always made to feel like success is in the future. But it’s always in the future.
I mean, we're three games into the season. Of course success is in the future. There's a word for leagues where the title is a foregone conclusion, and that word is "Austrian"
 
Tanganga to Augsburg confirmed. Loan with an obligation which is presumably based on appearances and/or them staying up.
 
Keita and Ox left at the end of their contracts, Henderson is 33 and Fabinho made a money move to Saudi. I share your frustration around the lack of outgoings and the stall in the window post-Kane to now but to equate the Liverpool midfield situation to ours is a false equivalence IMO

In Roo’s defence though, when we’re rejecting offers for Sanchez, then it makes the frustrations semi-valid. We pissed about with Tanganga too and I think we’ve ended up agreeing to a lower option offer now with Augsburg because of it. Plus Lilywhite Rose saying we’re pricing White too high for potential suitors at the moment, hopefully that changes as he’s a decent talent but with zero future here. We can’t say we need to shift in order to replace but then reject offers or haggle for unreasonable fees.

Dan KP did say just the other day too that rumours are Levy’s still demanding unrealistic fees for players. No issues him doing so with Hojbjerg for instance, but ridiculous with genuine deadwood.
 
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Tanganga to Augsburg confirmed. Loan with an obligation which is presumably based on appearances and/or them staying up.
I hope it's not an appearance obligation.
I find them to be counter-productive, as the player's selection isn't purely based on merit.
 
In Roo’s defence though, when we’re rejecting offers for Sanchez, then it makes the frustrations semi-valid. We pissed about with Tanganga too and I think we’ve ended up agreeing to a lower option offer now with Augsburg because of it. Plus Lilywhite Rose saying we’re pricing White too high for potential suitors at the moment, hopefully that changes as he’s a decent talent but with zero future here. We can’t say we need to shift in order to replace but then reject offers or haggle for unreasonable fees.

Dan KP did say just the other day too that rumours are Levy’s still demanding unrealistic fees for players. No issues him doing so with Hojbjerg for instance, but ridiculous with genuine deadwood.

Nah I completely agree with all of that. We have an enormous FFP window of opportunity and an enormous amount of money from sales. We should not be holding up player moves over nominal sums if delays in moving them on is what is blocking further recruitment of players the coach wants for the project (sorry).
 
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