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Billy Batts said:
I just don't think we'll have the patience for it overall. The model only works if we're selling our best, most reputable players for big money and using the money to strengthen the overall squad. Which I personally don't have a problem with. Likes of Clarke, Neil etc will inevitably have to be sold. But then you'll get fans fuming about selling our assets, and how are we ever going to progress if we sell all our best players.
We've obviously reached a limit now whereby we can't bring anymore in, permanently, without players going.
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Unfortunately patience is needed in football unless you have silly money and even then its not guaranteed

Too much is made of the model imo, the thing that has impressed me is they have a vision n a plan. All succesful businesses have this. Will they get stuff wrong, 100% they will but at least they are going about it the right way. We need to focus on recruitment and development of talent, thats the only way we will be successful

Throwing money at it wont work unless you have a vision n a plan. Remember KLD has spent money, hes invested a lot in the data n recruitment team as well as bringing in quality coaches to the academy. We also had the 2nd highest net spend in the league last season n the only team higher had just got relegated from the PL

It will take time but the aim is for it to sustainable over a number of yrs n not just 1 or 2 good seasons like we had under reidy (only counting the pl seasons)

Patience is something us supporters dont have tho but we need it lol
 
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smithy in nl said:
But when someone’s injured ya don’t just start replacing them man! It’s not just Sunderland that are struggling to find strikers there’s every other team in the world so it would seem.
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You try to have more than one senior striker at the club regardless if fit or not surely?
Every other team probably has a couple senior options at the club already so aren't as in need as we are
 
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Scout73 said:
Unfortunately patience is needed in football unless you have silly money and even then its not guaranteed

Too much is made of the model imo, the thing that has impressed me is they have a vision n a plan. All succesful businesses have this. Will they get stuff wrong, 100% they will but at least they are going about it the right way. We need to focus on recruitment and development of talent, thats the only way we will be successful

Throwing money at it wont work unless you have a vision n a plan. Remember KLD has spent money, hes invested a lot in the data n recruitment team as well as bringing in quality coaches to the academy. We also had the 2nd highest net spend in the league last season n the only team higher had just got relegated from the PL

It will take time but the aim is for it to sustainable over a number of yrs n not just 1 or 2 good seasons like we had under reidy (only counting the pl seasons)

Patience is something us supporters dont have tho but we need it lol
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Cracking post that.
 
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Culinary said:
I have a genuine issue with them, I really do think they've had a massive contribution in shaping the mentality of a sizeable proportion of our fans and it's not pretty. This constant, unwarranted, conspiratorial deep seeded suspicion and distrust of those in a position of authority at SAFC is unhealthy and creates so much negativity.

I understand why it has come about but it's coming to the point that it is problematic (to me at least) and could genuinely be damaging to the club's future.
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Winning games covers a multitude of problems, losing games highlights all the sore points..

So all we need is to start winning!
 
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Everton for years were ran sustainably, they never threw money around and progressed slowly. The new fella came in and chucked 500 million around like confetti and look at the state of them now !
We are ran well and have been told numerous times by the ownership that the club needs to be self funding, its not going to change.
 
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TeamOfTalents said:
You try to have more than one senior striker at the club regardless if fit or not surely?
Every other team probably has a couple senior options at the club already so aren't as in need as we are
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You do and we are aren’t we? We’ve got quite a few players that can play up top and it’s not really effecting our goals per game stats as it stands.

we will get another one or two but because it’s not happened already I’m not about to start ****ting the bed like most.
 
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Billy Batts said:
I just don't think we'll have the patience for it overall. The model only works if we're selling our best, most reputable players for big money and using the money to strengthen the overall squad. Which I personally don't have a problem with. Likes of Clarke, Neil etc will inevitably have to be sold. But then you'll get fans fuming about selling our assets, and how are we ever going to progress if we sell all our best players.
We've obviously reached a limit now whereby we can't bring anymore in, permanently, without players going.
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What's that based on?

I agree though that the biggest barrier to success of the model at the club is getting the fans to buy in to it and be patient.
 
LBW said:
Everton for years were ran sustainably, they never threw money around and progressed slowly. The new fella came in and chucked 500 million around like confetti and look at the state of them now !
We are ran well and have been told numerous times by the ownership that the club needs to be self funding, its not going to change.
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That's a very good point. I was probably just venting a bit because it's frustrating as hell at the moment being without a striker etc!
 
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smithy in nl said:
You do and we are aren’t we? We’ve got quite a few players that can play up top and it’s not really effecting our goals per game stats as it stands.

we will get another one or two but because it’s not happened already I’m not about to start ****ting the bed like most.
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If you’re saying we are ok squad wise up top - we really aren’t. We need a ready to play number nine asap. Should we pay ridiculous fees ? Should we lower standards ? No. That means we may have to wait or loan. I’d rather have a better quality player through a loan than ‘our’ player but not good enough yet. We already have them. Personally I still think they should have had a ‘laser focus’ on the right player and secured that player by now so there have been errors or miscalculations but what’s evident from our three defeats in a row is we’re missing quality, so let’s not sign less than we need.,
 
Pure River Slut said:
If you’re saying we are ok squad wise up top - we really aren’t. We need a ready to play number nine asap. Should we pay ridiculous fees ? Should we lower standards ? No. That means we may have to wait or loan. I’d rather have a better quality player through a loan than ‘our’ player but not good enough yet. We already have them. Personally I still think they should have had a ‘laser focus’ on the right player and secured that player by now so there have been errors or miscalculations but what’s evident from our three defeats in a row is we’re missing quality, so let’s not sign less than we need.,
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Never said we are complete squad wise but like your points we need the best and they obviously take longer!
People seem to forget we didn’t really know what league we’d be in until the last minute.
 
flandersmackem said:
its sad to see when someone puts his/her head above the parapet and has the temerity to express concern our beloved club have not secured striker replacement that we have needed since Jan this year. We are often told by some that this is a forum for discussion and debate yet when that happens a certain section ( i'm assuming former contributors from RTG) dismiss the comments and the poster as negative moaners. Where is the debate there? I have for a long time now restricted my thoughts on here as ......its just not worth it. But for those who feel all is well and we will get it right...by the way, we all hope that is the case. If losing to Ipswich, Crewe (league 2) both at home and Preston ( who I believe will end up at the wrong end of The Championship) is not a topic for a debate about the need to replace what we glaringly need, i'm not sure what the point of this forum is.
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1. We didn't lose to Crewe 2. It's the ad nauseum repetition of the same weary tropes that grind on some posters.
 
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