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Smug in Boots said:
I'd just like to say that Nick Barnes is what he is.



99% of people, on here, are just decent ordinary Sunderland supporters who chat about the club ...

... anyone causing bother usually just vanishes without trace.

Hope you enjoy it on here.
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Well, five here have not renewed , two, myself included since way,way back. Not one will renew while this person is in control but if the take over happens and is reasonably transparent, and the "chancer's" gone, I'm sure that they will be renewed even if no one can attend.. Were just waiting to see what happens and are playing our part in keep our cash dry. Donald and Methven will not get one more penny out of us.
 
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Confucius said:
Donald playing hard ball when the others hold the cards. He really is a **** gambler, ****er
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Once Donald accepted the takeover loan he was knackered. Her never held a strong hand from that point, in fact, I'll go further, he never had a strong hand when he bought the club. He had to use other sources of income. There will be caveats contained that FPP will hold all the cards,same as most Banks do when lending to business's., loaded in FPP favour.
 
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Someone across the road is now saying Brian Marwood has agreed to to come on board when the takeover happens. He didn't say his source so not taking it to seriously, I did wonder when someone would mention it again though
 
The Redbaron said:
Once Donald accepted the takeover loan he was knackered. Her never held a strong hand from that point, in fact, I'll go further, he never had a strong hand when he bought the club. He had to use other sources of income. There will be caveats contained that FPP will hold all the cards,same as most Banks do when lending to business's., loaded in FPP favour.
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IIRC didn't Donald say at the time of the "Investment" that those Sunderland fans who thought he was acting in his own best interests and not the clubs, should wait and see the outcome of the deal he had agreed to ?
Then again, he said a lot of things.
 
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Lewberry Pie said:
It's easy to look like a cheerleader when everyone else insists that the only viewpoint is hatred.
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Bit of a sweeping statement there mind. I have no hatred for him, and am quite willing to accept that he somewhat stabalised the finances but he's made some poor decisions on the football side of things. I believe his aim was simply promotion, flip, profit. That hasn't happened and now I don't think he has the finances to keep us going, never mind take us forward. Additionally, I'm not too convinced his own ego can handle the idea of being a failure and if he thinks he can find a way to hang onto ownership I think he will.

However, I really do think the finances are beyond him and he has little wriggle room left. Probably the only way to cut costs at the club would be to downgrade the academy and if he did that, there would be absoloute hell on. That has to be funded and I'd prefer it was done without touting all our young talent about. Overall, I'd say he's been a bit of a failure and I think he should be taking that on the chin. If that means he has to take a loss on selling the club, so be it.
 
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Sandy Camel said:
Bit of a sweeping statement there mind. I have no hatred for him, and am quite willing to accept that he somewhat stabilised the finances but he's made some poor decisions on the football side of things. I believe his aim was simply promotion, flip, profit. That hasn't happened and now I don't think he has the finances to keep us going, never mind take us forward. Additionally, I'm not too convinced his own ego can handle the idea of being a failure and if he thinks he can find a way to hang onto ownership I think he will.

However, I really do think the finances are beyond him and he has little wriggle room left. Probably the only way to cut costs at the club would be to downgrade the academy and if he did that, there would be absolute hell on. That has to be funded and I'd prefer it was done without touting all our young talent about. Overall, I'd say he's been a bit of a failure and I think he should be taking that on the chin. If that means he has to take a loss on selling the club, so be it.
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That has to have been his plan as why else would he have a buyer at Wembley hoping to finalise a deal? If he really wanted the club, wanted the prestige or kudos that sparks an ego, he would have been looking forward with his chest puffed out about what a cracking job they'd done, re-awakening a football giant, bouncing straight back at the first opportunity and now ready to launch a second successive promotion bid to get to the promised land. But no, he had gone out and sought a buyer (or entertained the bid if he was approached first) and the only reason why would be for monetary gain. Remember, that was all done prior to the final and almost certainly prior to our late stumble when most people expected us to go up automatically.
 
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Wackyjacky said:
That has to have been his plan as why else would he have a buyer at Wembley hoping to finalise a deal? If he really wanted the club, wanted the prestige or kudos that sparks an ego, he would have been looking forward with his chest puffed out about what a cracking job they'd done, re-awakening a football giant, bouncing straight back at the first opportunity and now ready to launch a second successive promotion bid to get to the promised land. But no, he had gone out and sought a buyer (or entertained the bid if he was approached first) and the only reason why would be for monetary gain. Remember, that was all done prior to the final and almost certainly prior to our late stumble when most people expected us to go up automatically.
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Agree, he tried to sell first year and then changed his story to 19 months after the fans applied pressure. Really poor journalism that he's never been challenged on this
 
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Lewberry Pie said:
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Reckon hatred is a strong term mind.

I do think that he came in to get us promoted and then look to sell on at least a large portion of his shareholding for a tidy profit. If he managed to do that then there’d be no discontent whatsoever.

We’ve failed to get promoted two years running now though and his finances are drying up, so he needs to sell and fast - but if he isn’t budging from his asking price (reportedly £37m) then it’s a difficult sell to achieve. The longer it goes on, the worse it is for us.

If anything, we hate his stubbornness.
 
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