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BUSINESSES which have re-opened after shutting down over the coronavirus crisis were "never required to close", Matt Hancock declared today.
"Throughout we've allowed hardware stores to stay open, and the construction industry, but what businesses have been doing is taking the last couple of weeks to work out 'ok how do you stay open and stay within the social-distancing rules at work?'

"So it's absolutely fine for those businesses to stay open because they were never required to close by the social-distancing rules."


 
bobmid said:
BUSINESSES which have re-opened after shutting down over the coronavirus crisis were "never required to close", Matt Hancock declared today.
"Throughout we've allowed hardware stores to stay open, and the construction industry, but what businesses have been doing is taking the last couple of weeks to work out 'ok how do you stay open and stay within the social-distancing rules at work?'

"So it's absolutely fine for those businesses to stay open because they were never required to close by the social-distancing rules."
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That sneaky feeling of paying certain self employed people come june is dwindling with every day!
 
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bobmid said:
BUSINESSES which have re-opened after shutting down over the coronavirus crisis were "never required to close", Matt Hancock declared today.
"Throughout we've allowed hardware stores to stay open, and the construction industry, but what businesses have been doing is taking the last couple of weeks to work out 'ok how do you stay open and stay within the social-distancing rules at work?'

"So it's absolutely fine for those businesses to stay open because they were never required to close by the social-distancing rules."
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Sometimes I think he’s one of the better ones in a bad bunch of charlatans who have sold themselves out for the cult and then I read something like that.
 
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qprbeth said:
I didn't hear Sarah, but I did hear Andrew Pollard, her boss, who is also very good on BBC breakfast early this morning.

He got asked the very sensible question, so why are you putting the vaccine trialists back into the community, to catch it naturally; why not just give them Coronoa virus itself.
He explained we have no treatment yet, and people even young fit people may die. So we cannot do that, and we have no idea what dose gives you mild disease, what dose is it that kills you. They do not even know if the symptoms are dose dependant, and the effcts of an identical dose may just be down to an individuals history and/or genes.

There is so much we really don't know.

Because they have to do it this way, putting the volunteers in the community to catch (or not catch it) naturally, the results are going to take longer.

BTW, I really like Sarah Gilbert, a really sensible no frills scientist.
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She really is incredibly positive about the chances of success, in a way that I would get into huge trouble for if I was talking about something in phase 2 - though it’s sort of hard to tell what phase trial this is, must be different for vaccines, was interesting that the comparator arm is not placebo but meningitis vaccine.

Chinese released interim results on the Gilead drug early, not promising but trial not complete, and the Chinese results seem to contradict what happened in Chicago. The anti malarial not performing well apparently.
 
sb_73 said:
She really is incredibly positive about the chances of success, in a way that I would get into huge trouble for if I was talking about something in phase 2 - though it’s sort of hard to tell what phase trial this is, must be different for vaccines, was interesting that the comparator arm is not placebo but meningitis vaccine.

Chinese released interim results on the Gilead drug early, not promising but trial not complete, and the Chinese results seem to contradict equations happened in Chicago. The anti malarial not performing well apparently.
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I agree about the second arm of the trial too Stan. My guess is that the CoVid19 vaccine is built on the framework of the meningitis vaccine, that is why that is the second arm, and why no placebo is needed. This is just a safety trial in healthy and very fit volunteers, I think this is phase1/phase2 and one of the corners they are cutting... I think the vaccine people are been to be positive, as everything else is not looking good. As you say the remdesivir results are disappointing, especially as I thought it had been shown to be a little effective in SARS (CoVid1). The hydrochloroquinine , has been used in this country, some one on the news was given it, and made a recovery...but these are one off tales I am afraid.

Worrying times
 
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mmm I am glad people like Sarah Gilbert because she was the bod I mentioned on here a while back and a couple of posters seemed to think these bods were controlled by the government... which in itself is b2222222's.
 
Sooperhoop said:
Seeing is believing <yikes> Hopefully, they'll take him at his word and give him the first shot...

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With a bit of luck, somebody will suggest to him that he's a wimp who doesn't stand up to his advisers and call them out and then dare him to to do just one of the stupid things he has suggested. The bleach sounds like a good one. Pull the moron a pint of the best. Donald if you've got nothing to say take a tip. Don't say anything - answer that you don't know and pass the question over to one of the experts who is in the briefing with you
 
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Another 761 people have died of coronavirus in the UK, bringing the total death toll to at least 19,499.
 
West WindsR said:
Sometimes I think he’s one of the better ones in a bad bunch of charlatans who have sold themselves out for the cult and then I read something like that.
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It's a ****in piss take. I seriously believe they want this disease to spread. They are devious bastards who shouldn't be trusted.
 
ELLERS said:
Another 761 people have died of coronavirus in the UK, bringing the total death toll to at least 19,499.
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Sorry I just ago another figure of 684


BREAKING
Coronavirus: Another 684 patients with COVID-19 die in UK hospitals as growth rate slows
 
is it just me, or does anyone else find it very strange that China have admitted to roughly only 3500 deaths when there are more deaths in other countries??

Also, (and I would value opinions on here) PPE - the majority of people I have seen on TV have bare arms. Now if this virus can stay on a surface, and you lean on the surface, then you are then picking this up? If you then brush up against another surface you are spreading this? If I am talking rubbish then let me know.
 
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is it just me, or does anyone else find it very strange that China have admitted to roughly only 3500 deaths when there are more deaths in other countries??

Also, (and I would value opinions on here) PPE - the majority of people I have seen on TV have bare arms. Now if this virus can stay on a surface, and you lean on the surface, then you are then picking this up? If you then brush up against another surface you are spreading this? If I am talking rubbish then let me know.
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I heard on the news last night that some of the Hong Kong activists and people standing in the elections have been arrested. Some others seemed to have disappeared...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...watched-closely-over-activist-arrests-says-un
 
qprbeth said:
Funny, I think I have liked everyone I have met in person from this site Jeff.

Have I ever met you ....
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Wasn’t on about this site Beth, I’m sure everyone on this site is likeable & cool, no I haven’t met you yet & would like to & others, maybe when football does start & a meet & drink at a local where you all go would be pleasant, I have nothing against you or fellow Rs on here, probably frustrated of lack of footie & stuck at home & furloughed from work
 
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