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I can't be alone in reading your post and thinking 'I would've wanted the referendum to be binding and I didn't know it wasn't'.

I thought I was very attentive throughout the whole debate, but I don't remember anything about it not being binding.

That only came up after the result went the “wrong way”.
 
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Except they do now more than ever after 9 years of Tory austerity.

Yet for some reason people have far more sympathy for huge corporations like McDonalds having a pay their staff a bit more.

Not huge corporations but small businesses who bare the brunt of these policies, including the poorly named corporation tax(read small business tax) that corporations still won’t actually pay, and put small businesses at a further disadvantage against them.

If minimum wage for u18’s rises to £10p/h my young ‘apprentice’ is gone. No two ways about it. Yes even more workload for myself but he just ain’t worth that, I’d find some old guy teetering around retirement who’s happy to work part time hours instead.
 
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I was only joking and it was in response to Ric stating that I was asking stupid questions.

But fair play.
Joking? Really? I thought you were just continuing your online insult rhetoric!!!The truth of the matter is,you think you're above certain individuals posting on here and anyone posting anything different to you on here is an uneducated idiot!!!
 
Aren't food banks a charity, how are the Corbynistas going to ban charitable work? This worries me about Labour, are they going to reestablished a bloated benefits system that is attractive as a lifestyle choice like it got to under Blair/Brown? When they tax & spend to excess on welfare systems it drives working tax payers to vote Tory, taxation and benefits has to be seen to be fair?

If I remember rightly, didn't you say that there was not a candidate right-wing enough for you in the last GE - so you had to vote Tory?

Just out of interest, wherever you are based, is that still the same this time around?
 
Not huge corporations but small businesses who bare the brunt of these policies, including the poorly named corporation tax(read small business tax) that corporations still won’t actually pay, and put small businesses at a further disadvantage against them.

If minimum wage for u18’s rises to £10p/h my young ‘apprentice’ is gone. No two ways about it. Yes even more workload for myself but he just ain’t worth that, I’d find some old guy teetering around retirement who’s happy to work part time hours instead.
Give me a shout when you're recruiting,I fit that description perfectly.
 
I just think you seem to place a lot of emphasis on 'information' tabloids tell you. You're whipped up.

And even if she did, what does that prove? Is that damning evidence against the impact of austerity?

For someone so full of how intelligent they are you are slow on the uptake.It wasn’t “information” it was something which happened and reported on as she went online about it. Nor am I whipped up, whatever that means. Must look it up and do a dissertation on it. The point is people claiming they can’t afford food but having £100 to spare on online bingo. Others claim the same despite having phones, internet, SKY. Priorities. There are some affected by austerity but not as many as some claim. Though austerity was a good thing under Attlee’s government. His Chancellor wanted more of it even when there was no need, so much so he was known as Stafford “ Austerity” Cripps.
 
Joking? Really? I thought you were just continuing your online insult rhetoric!!!The truth of the matter is,you think you're above certain individuals posting on here and anyone posting anything different to you on here is an uneducated idiot!!!

I apologise if it came across like that and like most people I can be a right twat.

Overall, what I was meaning was that I place my trust in evidence and argument and I'm to back up what I write here with such.

Hopefully, no hard feelings?
 
For someone so full of how intelligent they are you are slow on the uptake.It wasn’t “information” it was something which happened and reported on as she went online about it. Nor am I whipped up, whatever that means. Must look it up and do a dissertation on it. The point is people claiming they can’t afford food but having £100 to spare on online bingo. Others claim the same despite having phones, internet, SKY. Priorities. There are some affected by austerity but not as many as some claim. Though austerity was a good thing under Attlee’s government. His Chancellor wanted more of it even when there was no need, so much so he was known as Stafford “ Austerity” Cripps.

You sound rabid at times - barely relevant or cogent at times.

But, in truth, let's try and raise the bar here.
 
When everyone is earning 20% less they won't be able to afford to go out for meals - or are you suggesting that business has to foot the increased wage bill as well as pay a 7% tax hike in corporation tax - the high street is already on it's knees - that would finish it off - Corbyns policies are designed for one audience only - those that believe that money grows on trees and that business and rich bastards should fund everyone else - once there is no encouragement to work and invest you stop doing it and you go elsewhere to a more forward thinking society which is why countries like Venezuela and Cuba are ****ed because no-one is prepared to invest any money there

No one is suggesting people earn less. Yes, the proposal is a shorter working week for the same money. Shock horror, the business which are able to hoard the vast, vast majority of the wealth in this country on behalf of an extremely privileged handful of individuals who were born into such luxury, would foot the bill.

This isn't about corner shops and takeaways, where people generally work part time anyway.

But I'll say it yet again, this is one policy proposed by one opposition party which blows anything the Tories have got out of the water. The more pressing issue is that the incumbent party, the most popular one according to the polls and of course recent history, is a party which isn't offering anything like this. No improvement to the lives of us regular folk whatsoever. Nothing to address the crisis around the NHS, or housing, or the disgusting levels of poverty, none of it.

The vast majority of us are normal folk. We weren't born with the wealth and privilege that the Tories and their big business mates were. 5 more years of them will be 5 more years of channeling all the money into a few individuals' hands while telling us there is none to be spent on improving the country. So again, what is there to vote for in the Tories? What exactly is good about their offering?
 
If I remember rightly, didn't you say that there was a candidate right-wing enough for you in the last GE - so you had to vote Tory?

Just out of interest, wherever you are based, is that still the same this time around?

Blimey you have a good memory Leon?

I still consider the Tories a centre right party and I'm quite happy to vote for them unless they get too liberal on certain issues and I feel compelled to vote for a further right protest party.
 
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Looking at the exchanges, I think it was a mistake on my part to let this thread stay. My apologies to posters that prefer us to stick to the no politics rule.

In among the personal stuff, there are some reasoned posts, so it's not all bad.

Anyone wanting to continue a verbal joust and exchange personal comments with other posters will find themselves banned from the thread.

Please stick to the topics and avoid the personal exchanges.
 
Still waiting for someone to post something positive about the Tory manifesto without mentioning Labour.

37 pages so far.

Will we break triple figures? Stay tuned.

They’re going to keep tax rates lower.

Not low enough, and still taxed at every single opportunity, including your death, but less tax nonetheless.
 
Not huge corporations but small businesses who bare the brunt of these policies, including the poorly named corporation tax(read small business tax) that corporations still won’t actually pay, and put small businesses at a further disadvantage against them.

If minimum wage for u18’s rises to £10p/h my young ‘apprentice’ is gone. No two ways about it. Yes even more workload for myself but he just ain’t worth that, I’d find some old guy teetering around retirement who’s happy to work part time hours instead.

You're talking about getting rid of someone and employing someone else instead who'd cost the same. Sounds like you don't rate the kid for whatever reason.

Whenever anything like this is proposed, everyone is suddenly a small business owner who couldn't possibly cope with a small increase in the quality of life of their employees.

This is supposedly one of the most developed countries in the world, and factually one of the most wealthy. If we as a country can't afford for our regular folk, you and me, to have a very slightly better quality of life then it's an extremely **** world we live in.

Thankfully, there are other nations which show it is perfectly feasible. I'm lucky in that I work for a Scandinavian company which generally follows the Scandinavian model in terms of how it looks after its employees. They still make loads of money from the relatively small amount of work I contribute when combined with that of my colleagues.

It's perfectly affordable if you want it to be. Sadly this country, for some reason, wants to believe that there is no money, that it all has to go to people like Mike Ashley and Philip Green. They've worked hard for it you know...
 
I can't be alone in reading your post and thinking 'I would've wanted the referendum to be binding and I didn't know it wasn't'.

I thought I was very attentive throughout the whole debate, but I don't remember anything about it not being binding.
Was very well known and publicised, but probably lost in the main stream media noise and clamour for creating division.
 
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You're talking about getting rid of someone and employing someone else instead who'd cost the same. Sounds like you don't rate the kid for whatever reason.

Whenever anything like this is proposed, everyone is suddenly a small business owner who couldn't possibly cope with a small increase in the quality of life of their employees.

This is supposedly one of the most developed countries in the world, and factually one of the most wealthy. If we as a country can't afford for our regular folk, you and me, to have a very slightly better quality of life then it's an extremely **** world we live in.

Thankfully, there are other nations which show it is perfectly feasible. I'm lucky in that I work for a Scandinavian company which generally follows the Scandinavian model in terms of how it looks after its employees. They still make loads of money from the relatively small amount of work I contribute when combined with that of my colleagues.

It's perfectly affordable if you want it to be. Sadly this country, for some reason, wants to believe that there is no money, that it all has to go to people like Mike Ashley and Philip Green. They've worked hard for it you know...


Someone who doesn’t really know what he’s doing isn’t worth £10 an hour whatsoever. The reason he’s here is because he’s cheap, and a pair of hands that’s willing to learn. But if he’s going to cost the same as someone who already knows, and therefore is going to be more than twice as efficient, it’s no contest. Particularly when he’s going to bugger off to uni free of charge anyway, he represents a very poor investment in terms of time and money.
 
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