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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ristac, Jun 24, 2016.

  1. lifecheshirewhite

    lifecheshirewhite Cheese

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    maybe not mars in your case,beginning to think your opinions are more like comming from Uranus.night some of us have to work,to pay Corbyns gangs benefits
     
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  2. Whitejock

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    I think you'll find that you're the one expressing the (foundless) opinions. I've simply debunked them by using easily available evidence & simple questions - all of which have been ignored by you. You're obviously very familiar with Uranus. Your bloody head's stuck up there often enough! :D
     
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  3. lifecheshirewhite

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    <yikes> you have ? can you list all the evidence you've shown me,afraid you've lost the plot,not seen any.<doh>
     
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  4. Chippy / Glory

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    I want to know why there is a punch up going on that i didnt start?
     
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  5. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    It's a friendly dispute. It only becomes a punch up when you join in
     
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  6. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Sympathy for you and Mrs WJ and I too have had first hand experience with PIP it is not perfect but it is catching the cheats. Sadly it will tangle in a few who genuinely need it but my point is, PIP was brought in because the cheats were draining the welfare system dry
     
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  7. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I detest Corbyn, if for a moment everyone just accepts that I do without question... Hundreds of thousands are like me, they too detest him, it doesn't matter why, we just do.

    When the next election comes around Corbyn and Labour will lose by a landslide just taking in the Corbyn detestors alone. My belief is Corbyn will increase taxes and dish out more welfare, he will welcome more immigration.

    Right belief or wrong, the fact I believe it is reason enough for me never to vote for him, add on top of that I just plainly don't like him and I guarantee there are plenty like me.

    Corbyn is a typical example of a politician not listening to what the voter wants. Instead he is appealing to those on Welfare, the ones who will be too lazy to get off their arse and go and vote. He will appeal to a few genuine people like yourself WJ but not enough to come close in an election.

    Labour should have dumped him, love it or hate it, the red tops influence a lot of people out there and Labour will get their worse ever result with Corbyn leading them.

    All set for a welcome return for the elder Milliband in a few years time.
     
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  8. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Stop sitting on Matts fence ffs Ristac.Say what you really feel <whistle>
     
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  9. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning Eire Morning Forza hope you are both well.
     
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  10. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Morning Ristac. Just heading out the door. A couple of hours delivery to do then rest of weekend off
     
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  11. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Same here, just quickly catching up <ok>
     
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  12. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Just stick an ipad on the dashboard and youll always be in touch. Everyone else seems to be texting while driving, we might as well join them <doh>
     
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  13. w.c.dukenfieldesq

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    I'll hod yer coat Chips.
     
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  14. FORZA LEEDS

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    Morning Ristac also catching up on here and heading out, have a good day mate, great post btw
     
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  15. Whitejock

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    I really don't want to be Corbyn's champion here, but there is something that needs put right. You highlighted the word 'voter'. Do you realise that Corbyn was voted in as Leader (twice) by the Labour Party members - i.e. the ordinary people, aka voters. NOT the MPs, but the true party members. He has the biggest mandate that any Labour leader has EVER had. That speaks volumes.

    Having said that, I refer the honourable gentleman back to my first sentence, where I said that I think he will fail.

    The press do not like him, and they have developed a persona for him that suits their purposes. How close it is to actuality, I have no idea, as I don't know the man, nor have I studied his oratory or anything he has written.

    You must ask yourself why you have this view of him. Can you hand on heart say that you have studied his output to form your opinion, or is it perhaps more likely that you have been brainwashed by the media, the well-paid mouthpieces of those with an agenda against him?
     
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  16. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Cheers pal, enjoy your day, I've just finished my job this morning, much quicker than I thought it would be which is always good <ok>
     
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  17. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

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    If you have not seen the evidence presented before you, then I give up. I have provided links, personal information, and you've even learned new words.

    And what did I get in return?

    Bleating after unfounded bleating.

    Game over, unless you start providing some foundation for your bleatings. I've had enough of your unsubstantiated snash and am going to enjoy my day with my grandchildren (who at least fully explain what they're whining about). :D
     
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  18. Leedsoflondon

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    The trouble with Corbyn for me is he appears stuck in time. By that I mean he still comes across like a left wing student still sitting in the student bar raging against Tory and social injustice.
    As leader of the Labour Party he should not be going on protest marches, he should be appearing like a leader who can implement policies to make the country a fairer place with everyone having the opportunity to succeed if that's what he believes.
    Labour only have themselves to blame for their demise (and I have real concerns if the tories wipe them out next time and can run the country as they please) because they did preside over the growth of the welfare system that made it become a lifestyle choice for some and in doing so alienated their core (very hard) working class voters.
     
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  19. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Firstly, I haven't brought a newspaper in years so my only knowledge of him is through the news on TV. So I guess my answer is yes the media has influenced my decision but also when he speaks or when he is interviewed I often don't like what I hear. I truly believe he would be an awful prime minister....

    Why did he get back in? Because hardcore Labour supporters wanted him in, I have just had a read of http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/09/how-jeremy-corbyn-won-labour-leadership-election and the 183,000 that paid £25 to vote are a drop in the ocean compared to election voters.

    I'm a little confused though as you say you think he will "fail" but question or point out that he was voted in by party members, so why do you believe he will fail?
     
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  20. OLOF

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    Corbyn can't be that right in the head, he shagged that fat racist Diane Abbott

    With hindsight, The Labour party died with John Smith
     
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