Phelan Out

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Clearly it was always going to be a very tough game, but for me Phelan's post match comments were almost as depressing as the result.
He said; ""We have to look forward to what's ahead but we've had two disappointing results. We have Chelsea to come and then we go into 'our league' and we'll be judged on that."

I would rather have heard a more defiant 'war cry' from him than those uninspiring words. It almost sounds like Chelsea has already been written off instead of using that game as a spring-board to ignite our season and boost the player's self-belief.

We all know Chelsea will be bloody hard to get a result against, but Phelan needs to instil a more aggressive attitude into the players. We need to become known as a team that doesn't respect reputations and fights like a pack of wild dogs for 90 minutes +.
It's always disappointing when people read too much into manager speak.
They are cautious, cagey, guarded, and rightly so when speaking to the press,
 
Don't think I've ever seen a more one sided game tbh .. Liverpool were several classes above us on the day .. losing Elmore only compounded it .. As for Marshall he did ok .. nothing out of the ordinary tbf.. but then again same could be said for all those on duty
Jak would've saved at least one pen and kept the score down to at a 1-1 draw.
 
We'd be calling for their heads if it had happened against Sunderland and Burnley. As it was against Liverpool and Arsenal, who look like they could tear anyone apart at the moment, most of us would be willing to reserve judgement on any manager. As for Stoke, beggars can't be choosers in our position and a win is a win, plus making largely wholesale changes will have disrupted team fluency. All hasn't been well since the summer and people will do well to remember that when it comes to the manager, there isn't much choice anyway due to muppet boy likely putting off potential candidates. If we're having the same discussion regarding Phelan by mid-November, I could fully understand people's grievances with him. As it is, we've picked up more points so far than we thought possible at the end of July and it's frustrating to see despondency grow so quickly after 2 heavy defeats against 2 of the best sides in the league. I'm not calling out Phelan as someone to rival Pep, but do think given our circumstances he deserves us to stand by him at the moment.

dont talk ****ing stupid!
SB could have wiggled his wonky nose and scored 7 in the second half, like he has done in many of our games in the past...
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Jak would've saved at least one pen and kept the score down to at a 1-1 draw.

Completely agree Kemps. I pointed that out in my MOM comments when I gave Marshall a "Dishonourable mention" for his poor performance. That should at worst been a 2-1 loss even with 10 men.

Marshall dived over one penalty which Jak would have saved easily. The first (Lailanas) and third goal were slow rollers into the corners while Marshall stood flatfooted on the line and didnt even attempt to dive for, much like McGregor after his injury. Just hope Phelan reinstates Jak against Chelsea. We need his agility and anticipation.
 
Completely agree Kemps. I pointed that out in my MOM comments when I gave Marshall a "Dishonourable mention" for his poor performance. That should at worst been a 2-1 loss even with 10 men.

Marshall dived over one penalty which Jak would have saved easily. The first (Lailanas) and third goal were slow rollers into the corners while Marshall stood flatfooted on the line and didnt even attempt to dive for, much like McGregor after his injury. Just hope Phelan reinstates Jak against Chelsea. We need his agility and anticipation.

Marshall wasn't to blame on Saturday, he's our best keeper and should start against Chelsea.
 
We've got one keeper who's not at all happy...

Lukáš Vráblik @LukasVrablik
Dušan Kuciak (Hull's GK): 'Even before my injury, I was 3rd goalkeeper. Until today, I don't understand why they bought me in winter.'

Lukáš Vráblik @LukasVrablik
2: 'If nothing changes until winter, I will want to move where I will have bigger chance to play. I was thinking about it in the summer.'
Fair play. You've got to respect a player who wants to play for hos money.
 
I gotta say I agree with him .. I have no idea why they bought him either .. certainly not as good as McGregor and probably not as good as Jak .. money spunked down the drain for me

I think he was almost certainly brought in because Bruce didn't think Jak was good enough, then Jak upped his game and Kuciak never got a look in.
 
I think he was almost certainly brought in because Bruce didn't think Jak was good enough, then Jak upped his game and Kuciak never got a look in.

Probably true .. unfortunately the clips I saw of him prior to signing he didn't look that good to start with .. probably on a par with Jak before the latter as you correctly state upped his game
 
Marshall is our best keeper, fact. Without him we would be out of the cup and would've been on the end of an even heavier defeat that we were at the weekend.
One big difference between Jak and Marshall is that when Jak saves, quite often is palmed straight back into play with the first Arsenal goal as an example. Whereas Marshall either pushes it away from goal or out for a corner. To back that up, the two games Marshall has played are the two highest on corners conceded. But I fancy our chances defending against set pieces.
The sox goals Marshall's conceded in a city shirt, I can't blame him for any of them.
Stokes goal, Arnoutavic was shown inside by Robbo and was a ferocious strike.
Lallana's goal, even after seeing replays I have the same thought as I did when it happened, Marshall had his weight on the other foot. With his balance the way it was if he had dived he'd have collapsed and got nowhere near it.
First penalty, it's a pen. It's anyone's luck what happens with it.
Mane's goal, decent strike but very poor closing down.
Coutinho's goal. Unstoppable.
Second penalty, again; it's a pentalty.

His two games, he's had a huge hand in getting us through to the next round of he cup and our defence shot themselves in the foot against a VERY good Liverpool team.
Jak would have done no better.