Tickets selling fast for Hull City v Manchester United

[PLT]

Genuine question, why is that a rule in Hull but not anywhere else?

It wouldn't make a lot of sense anywhere else.

 

[originallambrettaman]

I went to see Berlin play Dortmund last season, Dortmund sold out the away end and then bought thousands of tickets dotted around the home ends, they openly supported their team and even drank beer in their seats, there wasn't any animosity of violence to be seen. Fans of opposing teams even shook hands after the game.

Who's got it right, England where everyone's segregated even if that means thousands of empty seats, or Germany where opposing fans can sit amongst each other and enjoy the game?

That might have been the case in the game you went to, but there's plenty of trouble at German football matches, they were even considering banning alcohol in the stands as a result of it. The Champions League final between Bayern and Dortmund was the most trouble there's ever been at the new Wembley.

 

[HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)]

There are plenty of games in Germany where this is segregation. And a lot of grounds where you couldn't buy in home ends because they are always sold out.

My objection to home fans in amongst City fans being tolerated, which incidentally is against ground regulations (which other ground regulations wouldn't you mind being ignored, flares, smoking,air horns?) is that this isn't always the case elsewhere. And Man Utd is one of those places.

There's segregation at every game in Germany between the home and away sections however there's nothing stopping away fans buying tickets in the home end. Also it doesn't matter if a games 'sold out' because tickets are always on re-sale anyway.

I agree with you that whilst its against ground regulations it needs to be tackled, I was more questioning if the current ground regulations are something that need to be reviewed, especially when other major leagues in Europe do it better, that goes for flares/air horns and the like as well not just segregation.

 

[HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)]

That might have been the case in the game you went to, but there's plenty of trouble at German football matches, they were even considering banning alcohol in the stands as a result of it. The Champions League final between Bayern and Dortmund was the most trouble there's ever been at the new Wembley.

You can segregate fans and ban alcohol but it will still happen. In Germany they realise that not all fans are the same and that the overwhelming majority can sit like civilised human beings and watch a sports event without acting like animals. They know that complete segregation won't stop violence it will just punish normal fans, the same with banning alcohol. Thankfully they take a more pragmatic and reasoned approach over there, in England its just assumed everyone's out to create trouble and for two hours a week you turn into a high risk violent criminal.

 

[Happy Tiger]

You can segregate fans and ban alcohol but it will still happen. In Germany they realise that not all fans are the same and that the overwhelming majority can sit like civilised human beings and watch a sports event without acting like animals. They know that complete segregation won't stop violence it will just punish normal fans, the same with banning alcohol. Thankfully they take a more pragmatic and reasoned approach over there, in England its just assumed everyone's out to create trouble and for two hours a week you turn into a high risk violent criminal.

It's really not that simple, nor as straightforward.

We have a much different culture around drinking in the UK than in places like Germany, and in fact most of the rest of the world.

What works overseas isn't likely to work in the UK.

 

[HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)]

It's really not that simple, nor as straightforward.

We have a much different culture around drinking in the UK than in places like Germany, and in fact most of the rest of the world.

What works overseas isn't likely to work in the UK.

Sorry but that's a cop-out, every other sport manages to allow people to drink without large scale disorder, its nothing to do with the 'drinking culture'.

Plus have you ever been to a tailgate in the US? Your average Brit wouldn't last till lunchtime never mind make it to the game.

 

[Evington]

Why do you want to be twatted?

Why would you ask that?

 

[clg101]

To be honest i wasn't too interested in Hull city in my early teens until i won a pair of tickets in the hull daily mail to go watch them play Blackpool at home in the season we first got promoted to the prem. We drew 2-2 and the excitement of that game just gripped me and i have supported them ever since. I am now 24 and have a membership with my fiance and daughter and am glad that i entered that competition. I may have been a plastic but would consider myself a supporter now.

 

[Irememberwaggy]

So every away fan's a plastic on alternate weekends.

I hadn't got you down as an argumentative pedant (like Sydneytiger and Peter Sexton to name but two!). Away fans are, of course ... Away fans, and not included in this debate.

 

[HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)]

To be honest i wasn't too interested in Hull city in my early teens until i won a pair of tickets in the hull daily mail to go watch them play Blackpool at home in the season we first got promoted to the prem. We drew 2-2 and the excitement of that game just gripped me and i have supported them ever since. I am now 24 and have a membership with my fiance and daughter and am glad that i entered that competition. I may have been a plastic but would consider myself a supporter now.

Nothing wrong with that at all, it doesn't matter how or when you get to your first game, all that matters is that you've supported them ever since.

 

[Happy Tiger]

Sorry but that's a cop-out, every other sport manages to allow people to drink without large scale disorder, its nothing to do with the 'drinking culture'.

Plus have you ever been to a tailgate in the US? Your average Brit wouldn't last till lunchtime never mind make it to the game.

Different types of people go to different events. Trouble in some other sports is not as widely reported.

Your final paragraph pretty much validates and agrees with my point...

 

[BOJACKHCAFCMAN]

To be honest i wasn't too interested in Hull city in my early teens until i won a pair of tickets in the hull daily mail to go watch them play Blackpool at home in the season we first got promoted to the prem. We drew 2-2 and the excitement of that game just gripped me and i have supported them ever since. I am now 24 and have a membership with my fiance and daughter and am glad that i entered that competition. I may have been a plastic but would consider myself a supporter now.

Didn't make a comment on this but I don't really agree with the term 'plastic' myself, a football fans a football fan to me regardless of anything, if some starstruck kids want to see Zlatan at the KCOM and aren't City fans that's fine by me, maybe they will watch Snodders bang in a freekick from 35 yards out and be dumbstruck City fans from then onwards.

 

[HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)]

Different types of people go to different events. Trouble in some other sports is not as widely reported.

Your final paragraph pretty much validates and agrees with my point...

So you're essentially saying football attracts a unique and dangerous demographic that can't be trusted to behave like the rest of society.

Do you work for Humberside Police by any chance?

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

Sorry but that's a cop-out, every other sport manages to allow people to drink without large scale disorder, its nothing to do with the 'drinking culture'.

Plus have you ever been to a tailgate in the US? Your average Brit wouldn't last till lunchtime never mind make it to the game.

Except yank beer is like piss water.

 

[HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)]

Except yank beer is like piss water.

Not the home brew, I thought I was going to go blind.

 

[BOJACKHCAFCMAN]

I think it's only the rednecks drink USA beer, anybody with a brain drinks imported stuff and the home brews

 

[DMD]

Didn't make a comment on this but I don't really agree with the term 'plastic' myself, a football fans a football fan to me regardless of anything, if some starstruck kids want to see Zlatan at the KCOM and aren't City fans that's fine by me, maybe they will watch Snodders bang in a freekick from 35 yards out and be dumbstruck City fans from then onwards.

I wouldn't describe myself as a football fan. I'm a City fan.

 

[bum_chinned_crab]

I wouldn't describe myself as a football fan. I'm a City fan.

I agree. I think football is dull as **** unless I want a team to win or a team to lose and I would never watch a live match that didnt meet this basic criteria.

 

[dennisboothstash]

I think it's only the rednecks drink USA beer, anybody with a brain drinks imported stuff and the home brews

Nonsense
Some fantastic IPAs from the States, and they are anything but piss. Try a full session on Flying Dog Raging Bitch and find out

 

[dennisboothstash]

I wouldn't describe myself as a football fan. I'm a City fan.

Football's rubbish