Goodbye Jose and......

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Whiteley Saint said:
Oh was that serious I thought he was just joking about the fact he keeps saying just Fonte to go (when talking about contracts) and making people nervous.
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I thought that too until Beefy said this earlier in the thread:

Beefy said:
Huge loss as a character I agree. But Fonte is very much at the age he will start to decline.

As I like to do percentages every time a player looks like going. I am giving this a 60/40 chance he leaves.
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Puck said:
I thought that too until Beefy said this earlier in the thread:
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Ah I missed that one. Probably skimmed past it when all the arguments started. ;)
So nothing definite yet. He'd be a mug to go in my opinion but we will see if Man Utd are willing to pay Saints premiums...that's if he actually wants to go.
 
I Sorry I Ruined The Party said:
Williams is a decent player, though. Don't think I would hold it against him that he played for Wales rather than Portugal. They are both pretty solid, no-fuss, CB's. Both are/were captains of their respective PL clubs. Williams is 8 months younger, so might get a little more out of him.

I think they are pretty close, tbh.
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Not close for me. Williams is good, but Fonte is miles better. Better touch, better passing, more confident on the ball, better leader, less mistakes. Better organiser, more vocal. Williams is one of those players that makes last ditch tackles, Fonte is the player that positions himself slightly better to not be in that position.

There's a number of reasons we finished 7th, and they were bottom half - we were better than them, and Fonte is a big part of that.

Not even mentioning what he has brought to the dressing room, which it's obvious is huge.
 
Osvaldorama said:
Not close for me. Williams is good, but Fonte is miles better. Better touch, better passing, more confident on the ball, better leader, less mistakes. Better organiser, more vocal. Williams is one of those players that makes last ditch tackles, Fonte is the player that positions himself slightly better to not be in that position.

There's a number of reasons we finished 7th, and they were bottom half - we were better than them, and Fonte is a big part of that.

Not even mentioning what he has brought to the dressing room, which it's obvious is huge.
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Eh?
 
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Osvaldorama said:
Not close for me. Williams is good, but Fonte is miles better. Better touch, better passing, more confident on the ball, better leader, less mistakes. Better organiser, more vocal. Williams is one of those players that makes last ditch tackles, Fonte is the player that positions himself slightly better to not be in that position.

There's a number of reasons we finished 7th, and they were bottom half - we were better than them, and Fonte is a big part of that.

Not even mentioning what he has brought to the dressing room, which it's obvious is huge.
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*cough* 6th *cough*
 
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Osvaldorama said:
Not even mentioning what he has brought to the dressing room, which it's obvious is huge.
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Not really in tune with the Swansea dressing room, since I don't follow them that closely.

But isn't Williams Swansea's Fonte equivalent? Signed with them in League One. Been there many years. Big part of them achieving two promotions. Appointed captain for his contributions, etc.

I don't know if Man U or Everton actually care that much about their impact on their previous teams, but to the extent they do I don't see where one is better than the other.
 
I Sorry I Ruined The Party said:
Not really in tune with the Swansea dressing room, since I don't follow them that closely.

But isn't Williams Swansea's Fonte equivalent? Signed with them in League One. Been there many years. Big part of them achieving two promotions. Appointed captain for his contributions, etc.

I don't know if Man U or Everton actually care that much about their impact on their previous teams, but to the extent they do I don't see where one is better than the other.
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Yep. I'd say that a Swansea fan would be saying what we're saying about Jose.
 
I Sorry I Ruined The Party said:
I don't know if Man U or Everton actually care that much about their impact on their previous teams, but to the extent they do I don't see where one is better than the other.
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I've never said that they should care. I'm saying we should care. I admit I've had quite a bit of red wine at this point, so my grammar has gone slightly squiffy. But what I'm trying to say is that, Fonte is much better than Williams, and should be worth more money.
 
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fran-MLs little camera said:
But hopefully he is not for sale.
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That's my hope. I think if the club stand firm, Jose will eventually settle and accept it, enjoy his status as a Euro Champion because right now I find it odd that he's not even given himself to have the proper hero's welcome back that he should have had. That in itself has disappointed me, because I wanted to be able to give him a big shout and treat him like a champion and it is a little telling that he hasn't quite realised that the fans probably wanted to do that.
 
I kind of hope Fonte leaves. It would be the final nail in the coffin of my delusion that it is possible for a player to love this club and to mean it when he says positive things about it. I could finally develop that hard skin which would allow me to see players as simple chess pieces...

I guess I am an oddball as I have never had much interest in money, which is rhe thing you guys keep saying is all important. I, personally, would prefer adoration and a settled homelife for my family. It is, obviously, wrong of me to think twice my yearly wage (and then some) every week could possibly be enough.
 
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