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HCST Protest Plans

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  1. Happy Tiger

    Happy Tiger Well-Known Member

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    You ain't either remember.

    Or.

    Are you??

    You're just makin it worse!
     
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  2. pierredelafranchesca

    pierredelafranchesca Well-Known Member

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    For what it's worth, I think the best protest methods are the simplest, the red card protest was spot on, easy to do and easy to get your normal non commital types involved. That again coupled with some of the more secrative plans which understandably are being kept quiet sounds like a perfect approach. I personally hope the secret plan is a massive City flag with the words, **** off you utter ****s written on it.
     
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  3. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm actually just sat back enjoying my retirement.
     
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  4. AlRawdah

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    Amen!
     
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  5. Fez

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    I agree that half-hearted walkouts don't work, but organised, well thought through ones do. The key thing is to give them somewhere to go on leaving, a sense of being involved and supporting each other; not easy to implement but maybe not as impossible as believed. I'm sure the local pubs would relish the thought of them for an extra hour or so!

    The walkouts by Sunderland fans became infamous, they got the cameras looking and commentators talking. Imagine the power of identifiable protesters (red shirts or cards held up) walking out after 19minutes.

    How to organise it is a different matter and time is needed to do it properly, which, hopefully, won't be required.
     
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  6. Happy Tiger

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    Blimey.

    You're enjoying his retirement too??

    :bandit:
     
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  7. AlRawdah

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    We've developed a bond......
     
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  8. dennisboothstash

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    Fibber
    I think you are the Trust's official spokesman
     
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  9. Happy Tiger

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    Pfft.

    I'm just ITK.
     
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  10. dennisboothstash

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    Bought and paid for with my membership fee, that's what you are ;)
     
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  11. Cortez91

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    They'll become chess buddies or something...
     
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  12. Cortez91

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    Please tell me you're advising against the half-arsed walk-out.
     
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  13. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    It's not actually my decision any more, though I understand they don't support the walk-out and will advise against it.
     
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    Yeah walk-out is just a bad idea
     
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    What ever you do please do not upset the players or I will have to get into Sir Alexander Dane mode. :biggrin:
    By Grabthar's hammer, by the suns of Worvan, you shall be avenged.
     
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  17. Fez

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    Walking out won't do anything harm and it won't make any less difference than anything else will, so if it feels good, do it. Why not?
     
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    I agree with this, as long as any protest is legal & safe & feels right to the individual then crack on for me.

    Somebody suggested on FB that those walking out at 1904 should be free to do so. They also suggested that instead of giving them a hard time or booing them simply applaud them, those walking out could then applaud back which would create a united front.

    The majority all seek the same result. Don't give others a hard time because their way of protesting is not how you would choose to do things.
     
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    The problem with it is those that want to do it, didn't present the idea too well on the respective groups on social media to those who were undecided. They claimed it worked for Liverpool while having no impact on the game/players (when in fact Liverpool lost a 2-0 lead after that walk out to draw 2-2). They claimed Sky will have no choice but to film it when it's the protest of the main three which has the least chance of being caught on camera - especially if something important is happening in the game. They claimed the walk-out has momentum and a lot of fans are doing it when actually there's no more than 300 currently apparently walking out. They even resorted to telling people to walk out rather than asking them (and some of those instructing aren't even attending the game!).

    As a result, it's not a case of the walk-out being or not being a good idea. It's now just causing a divide in fans. We need to be united.

    I can see it now... There being s penalty on the 19th minute for us, and the walk-out completely flops and Sky don't film.
     
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  20. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    City vs Leicester – Protest Details

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    Although there are rumours of a takeover being close, we’ve been here before and yet the club is still in the Allams’ hands. So we’ll continue to protest against the way they’re running the club at this Saturday’s match against Leicester. See the bottom of this page for a timeline of protest activities.

    We’ve received plenty of suggestions from fans for various protest ideas. Some of these suggestions have involved walkouts or late walk-ins, or even disrupting the game. We’re not encouraging anything along those lines at this stage. The important thing for us is that the protests are well organised and observed by the majority. The worst case scenario is that different groups of fans try to carry out different protests and none of them really work as a result of the diluted efforts.

    It may be that in the near future, if the current farce at the club continues and the club is not sold, we have to step it up again and maybe then would be the time to consider more active protests.

    The aim of what we’re encouraging now is to highlight for the TV cameras how upset City fans are, and bring attention to the various issues we have with the Allams’ ownership of the club, such as the detestable pricing out of children, seniors and the disabled from attending matches, forced seat moves and the ongoing obsession at the club with eradicating any reference to the word ‘City’. A lot of neutrals still don’t understand what is going on at Hull City. We want to make sure that they can start to understand after seeing this match on TV, we want to make the pundits discuss the situation and we want to bring attention to the shocking mismanagement of the club by the Allams.

    To this end, we’re proposing a large and widespread visual and vocal demonstration. This means red cards again, but also banners and plenty of singing. We’re asking fans to hold up a red card as the teams emerge before kickoff and make yourself heard vocally. If you have a banner (it must be smaller than 6 feet by 4 feet and be certified as fire safe, or the club could refuse its entry on the grounds of safety), bring that along and hold it up at this point too. We’ve commissioned several banners to help make our point but it’s definitely ‘the more the merrier’ so if you’ve got one bring it, and if not, consider making one.

    When the match reaches 19 minutes and 4 seconds in, we’ll do it again. This of course is the time at which fans have protested against attempts to change the club’s name by singing ‘City Til I Die’, in reference to the club being founded in 1904. Get those cards and banners up and sing loud. Make sure the cameras see and hear how unhappy we are.

    For the rest of the game, we’re asking fans to just sing loud and proud as normal. Keep those banners up if you like, but the main thing is that we make a noise. The players are certainly going to need that backing. Some people think that protesting means not giving the lads our support, so let’s show them that’s not the case.

    We’ll be distributing red cards from various entry points to the stadium area, as well as from our base at the William Gemmell pub on Anlaby Road. Cards will also be available to collect from the Tigers Lair pub, where a separate group of supporters are meeting ahead of a protest march to the stadium, and also from the Circle 87 cafe, partners of HCST and located opposite the stadium on Anlaby Road.

    We’d appreciate any help distributing the cards, so if you’d like to help, meet us at the William Gemmell pub at 10:30am. Here we’ll be co-ordinating the distribution of cards to ensure that they’re easily available for fans arriving at the ground. The bar will be open here and the nearby Circle 87 Cafe will be selling food.

    In addition to these demonstrations inside the ground, there are also thousands who no longer attend home matches while the Allams own the club, and many have told us that they want to be involved but won’t be entering the stadium. So as not to exclude these people, there will also be a demonstration outside the West stand reception at 12 o’clock noon. Everyone is welcome to join this. We understand that there will be media on the scene so this is another great chance to make ourselves heard. The ‘Allam Out Protest March’, which has been organised separately from HCST, will culminate here so that fans can join this demonstration together.

    Timeline of protest activities:

    10:30 –
    Meet at the William Gemmell pub if you’d like to help with protests. Also at this time, the ‘Allam Out Protest March’ meet at Tigers Lair.

    12:00pm – Demonstration outside the West stand reception including fans who are not attending the game.

    12:25pm – Teams come out for kickoff. Hold up your red cards and banners and make yourself heard vocally.

    12:30pm – Kickoff. Make as much noise as you can, as normal.

    19 minutes and 4 seconds into the match – Hold up your cards and banners again, sing ‘City Til I Die’ and anything else you can think of to make yourself heard.

    Rest of match – Make as much noise as you can, as normal.

    http://hullcitysupporterstrust.com/city-vs-leicester-protest-details/
     
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