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Next England Manager

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc), Jun 30, 2016.

  1. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    The Germans did actually abandon national expectation. They said they were starting again and rebuilding and they told the country and the media. They got it right very quickly though.

    If you don't remove that expectation, we will always be looking short term. I stand by my view. We will not get it right unless we start again and focus lower down the chain. Don't worry about the first team. What happens, happens.

    I read lots of people talking about getting the current group of players to do more, however I've heard that for nearly every group of players for the last 40 years. We need to change the make up and mind set of how we teach football. We are behind so many nations.
     
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  2. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    I'll let the FA know <laugh>
     
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  3. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Tbf, I think they have tried to drop the level of expectancy. But sure enough, the media get involved and as soon as you can say Tournament.! they're back on the case for expectation with, in some otherwise respectable places saying we can win this!

    I think I've said several times before that my expectations of any England team doing anything like playing up to their ability, died when Brian Clough wasn't appointed, so that's how long I personally haven't been caught up in the fervour. Perhaps I ought to manufacture my own low expectation for England tablets, bottle them and sell them. I'd make a fortune.

    However, what you can't do is abandon the current crop. Just don't start giving out hope when they start their inevitable out-of-tournament winning again.
     
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    sotonsaint Well-Known Member

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    Big Sam to be appointed by tomorrow.
     
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    RedandWhiteManofKent Well-Known Member

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    Would never want him anywhere near the Southampton manager job but for England I think he will be ok.

    Good luck Sam.
     
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    This is the correct decision. I have changed my mind in the last couple of years - did not realise how much he was at the front of modern coaching. That said, it was a while ago now, so not a guaranteed success, but the best option.
     
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    Feel for Sunderland....they didn't see this coming. We know what it's like to finish the season with a bit of hope...then get smacked in the mush.
     
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    That's the added bonus.
     
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    Kevin Nolan must have thought his chance at being England captain had gone but no. Dreams can come true kids!
     
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    Big Sam for England is bad news for Scotland in the qualifiers, I think.
     
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  11. RedandWhiteManofKent

    RedandWhiteManofKent Well-Known Member

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    Carroll and Defoe up front. Come on England
     
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    Not sure if you read this, but it's an interesting insight into the German remodelling:
    http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features...s-restructure-and-why-it-wouldnt-work-england
     
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    Rather that than a shagged out Kane.
     
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    Kevin Davies to come off the bench
     
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    The world has truly gone truly ****ing mad. First Brexit, then that idiot Johnson as our Foreign Secretary and now Fat Sam as England Manager. People can't be trusted to make the "right" decisions anymore. I am going to hide under the blankets until it is safe to come out again.
     
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    Better take some supplies Godders, you could be under there some time.
     
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    And he made Carroll play on when he couldn't weight bear on one leg!
     
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    The article seemed to imply that Premier league clubs with so much foreign ownership wold have no vested interest in improving the national team, whereas the German clubs are largely fan owned. It also mentioned that the German FA and the German league retain good cooperation since their split so found it easier implementing the changes they introduced. Just the coaching facilities, training of coaches etc that the German FA implemented wouldn't get past the first hurdle.
    I think the article is right, and that the Premier league would resist any extensive changes as it serves them no purpose.
    And that's the problem, we need any ground up restructuring of coaching methods and facilities to be funded in part by the big teams, and enforced by the FA. One group is too selfish, the other too weak.
     
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