Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

I assume your family motto is, Thick, boneheaded twat, who always has to be right. Even when he's demonstrably wrong!...

 

Well done, Pete. You got two likes from the two of the three other biggest boneheads on this thread!....

 

So, why do you support Hull then, Pete?..

 

Glad you agree

 

Its all getting a bit childish..... ****in good job you lot are not running our country

 

Source please Hull AMD? I'm always wary of "quotes" out of context surrounded by someone else's narrative. I've assumed you've not written it, so I wondered who had?

I admit I don't know enough about the Werner Report but from what I've read so far it was a 3 stage plan for Economic and Monetary Union BUT his report was only a proposal. And while the ideology of economic and monetary union did go ahead, his particular proposal was never actually implemented. So linking one man's proposal to Heath compromising our sovereignty for some future federal state seems irrelevant and unproven.

 

"So linking one man's proposal to Heath compromising our sovereignty for some future federal state seems irrelevant and unproven".[/QUOTE]

Pretty much like most of everything else he posts!....

 

I'm from Hull originally

 

... what's that in Latin? ...

 

QED....!

 

you obviously dont understand logic

 

You obviously don't understand Qed!...

As I suspected, you originate from the Hull area, which was my assertion to your mate - who naturally tried to ridicule the whole idea, whilst being careful not to actually deny it.

 

Not sure, I think it's something like..

Kante abiit ad Chelsea et Mahrez est altera!....

 

Liverpool quadrigis parva sunt, et Chavbus etiam parva Partes et Spuds

 

hot day

 

Why would he have done that? The bloke's spineless, not stupid. Get it right.

 

Australia has called for a free trade deal with Britain following its exit from the European Union.

Theresa May described the move as "very encouraging" and insisted it showed Brexit can work for Britain.

In a phone call to the new PM, her Australian counterpart Malcolm Turnbull said he urgently wanted to open up trading between the two countries.

Liam Fox, the new international trade secretary, said he was already "scoping about a dozen free trade deals".

But Britain cannot sign any deals while it is still an EU member.

Mrs May said: "I have been very clear that this government will make a success of our exit from the European Union.

"One of the ways we will do this is by embracing the opportunities to strike free trade deals with our partners across the globe. It is very encouraging that one of our closest international partners is already seeking to establish just such a deal."

"This shows that we can make Brexit work for Britain," she added.

Britain is Australia's seventh largest trading partner, and is second only to the United States when it comes to direct foreign investment down under.

Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said a free trade agreement with the UK was a priority, although such treaties are complicated and can be time-consuming.

Australia's recent trade deal with China, for example, took a decade to negotiate.

Mr Turnbull has said Canberra could also team up with New Zealand to strike new commercial and immigration accords with the UK following its decision to leave the EU.

Dr Fox, a prominent Brexit campaigner, said numerous non-EU countries had already asked Britain for a trade deal and he was "scoping about a dozen... to be ready for when we leave".

It comes amid reports he is preparing to fly to the United States next week for talks.

In April, President Barack Obama warned the UK it would go to the "back of the queue" for trade deals with the US if it voted to leave the EU.

Following the referendum, he said the UK's decision to leave raised "longer-term concerns about global growth".

Mr Fox told the Sunday Times: "We've already had a number of countries saying, 'We'd love to do a trade deal with the world's fifth biggest economy without having to deal with the other 27 members of the EU.'"

Meanwhile, the new minister in charge of Brexit has said the UK should be able to formally trigger its departure from the EU "before or by the start of next year".

David Davis called for a "brisk but measured" approach, with a likely exit from the EU around December 2018.

He told the Mail on Sunday "we will get a generous settlement for EU migrants here now and a generous settlement for British citizens in the EU" but that tighter rules may have to be brought in for those coming to the UK before Brexit happens.

"We may have to say that the right to indefinite leave to remain protection only applies before a certain date. But you have to make those judgements on reality, not speculation," he said.

On Friday, Mrs May told Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon she would not trigger Article 50 to leave the EU before getting UK-wide agreement and she was "willing to listen to options" on Scotland's future after it voted to Remain.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36818055

 

Australia's recent trade deal with China, took a decade to negotiate.

Therein lies the rub.

The 2 year Brexit timetable laid out by the EU is unworkable in reality. We'd see most of our trade falling into the WTO tariffs whilst the complex negotiations with 161 separate nations were still ongoing. Davis and May need to negotiate a far longer period in which to conclude the separation.

 

We all know that, so we will fall back onto WTO tariffs, that wil hurt the EU more than us, so should help speed things up.
But the biggest stumbling block will be freedom of movement, the UK will say no, EU will say yes, so I guess a middle ground will be the way forward.