Off Topic BREXIT

It will spark a second vote if Parliament vote for one. You have more faith in our MPs than I do.

 

UKIP won't come into it. They would need a change in the electoral system. PR would have seen them have 3 times as many MPs as the SNP, the Greens would also have had more than the SNP under PR. Which is why, seeing how it would actually work, those in power would never agree to a change. Even those who,prattled on about PR for years will have backtracked when they realised it would more accurately represent the views of the electorate. A bit like a referendum, where a majority of voters wanted out but sround 80% of MPs are in favour of staying in. Which suggests under the present system a lot of the electorate are not having their views represented by the MP they voted for. One of the problems when so many vote for a party because their dad did, his dad did etc. That applies equally to Tory voters and Labour.

 

My life is mental. Mental but generally enjoyable.

37,000 young people signing a petition on a night out by mobile phone sounds reasonable to me.

I thought you mentioned Korea, my apologies if you didn't.

 

Although there were calls for referendums in Europe inspired by the Brexit vote, I think the post referendum mess here will make other Europeans more cautious about leaving. They'll see the facts surrounding the reality of leaving the EU whereas I believe voters here chose Brexit on the basis of how they thought it all might pan out i.e. their personal fiction.The ghastly Farage has suggested other countries will follow suit and put an end to the "European experiment". I think he's completely wrong. Europeans will see us tussling with the painful intricacies of negotiating an exit and decide to stay put, given that the world already offers enough uncertainty without opting for more. I'm deeply saddened about the outcome of the referendum.

 

In my day discussions were about your chances of pulling and who with when in a nightclub. References to things like football and whose round it was. Glad I was young in those less sophisticated times.

 

I feel your pain. You poor thing.

 

I doubt we will see a Labour government again if Scotland has a referendum and they vote for independence. A lot of Labour MP's, who were in the last Labour government, where from porridge land. This was born out at the last election by the fact that the SNP took nearly all the seats that were previously held by Labour, thus giving the conservatives an overall majority.

 

It's not the EU's choice.

The EU haven't called for us to leave ASAP. A couple of the leaders have spoken about checking legalities regarding how soon negotiations can start.

It is our choice. It may have been you, if not you, then other non democracy types were on here saying that the Government doesn't have to act on the referendum result.

The Government doesn't have to but the EU will? Which is it? Is this the power that people voted against?

 

I did, you mentioned NKCP & how the votes were distributed. ITK again, like the imaginary concessions that never were.

 

Based on the petition it would never end. There'll be no second vote.

 

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As opposed to rule of minority? You cant split a simple in out vote. When the EU goes tits up you may be grateful we are no longer tied

 

The Govt doesn't have to act on the result of the referendum, that's a fact.

However failing to is political suicide, but so is actioning article 50. Even Farage has now admitted a recession is likely, which is twat speak for completely inevitable. So back to my question - which Tory is going to press the button?

 

To you perhaps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_democracy

 

I am already glad.

 

I see they mention referendums. Is that direct democracy? Or only when the vote goes the right way?

 

100 people decided to leave the burning building 85 decided sod that

 

Far too much attention is being given to Scotland.

 

The reference to the North Korean Communist Party was a joke.

I'm never in the know. I put forward what I think. You think a second referendum is impossible, I don't. You think 37,000 people leaving in the UK signing the petition at 4am on a Sunday morning is impossible, I don't. It may have been in the 70s but not any more.

I think there is a possibility that Article 50 will not be invoked.

I never believed Cameron would get any meaningful concessions so I don't know where that reference came from.

 

That would be what is know as "direct legislation". Not my personal cup of tea due to the element of dictatorship of the majority we can see in our own current example. But some prefer it and it does do away with an abusive and corrupt elite leadership.

 

So if the Governmwnt don't have to act on the referendum result how can the EU act on it? Make your mind up.

The leader of the Ruling Party & he should do it once the best exit strategy has been agreed.

If you don't believe the best strategy shouldn't & wouldn't be best agreed between cross Party talks then your head's buried deeper than you think.

You can always carry on not worrying about it until Article 50 has been invoked. Obviously to carry on not worrying about it, you'd have to stop worrying about it.