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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Jun 21, 2016.

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How will you be voting?

  1. Remain

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    46.1%
  2. Leave

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  1. Old Tige

    Old Tige Well-Known Member

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    So you think two celebrity individuals "perfectly encapsulate" 16,141,241 people?

    What happened to that legendary (in your own head) intelligence?

    As stupid as it would be to suggest that Boris and Farage "perfectly encapsulate" the 17,410,742 leave voters.

    Very dumb thing to say.
     
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  2. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    I would respectfully point out that you are talking twaddle because you dont seem to understand the limitations of such a deal.

    "Draft deal: A pledge that the UK will not be on the hook for future bail-outs of eurozone states - specifically, crisis measures to shore up the euro area "will not entail budgetary responsibility for member states whose currency is not the euro”. The is also a promise of “reimbursement” if a eurozone state rescue-measure calls on general EU funds. (p4 of draft agreement)

    A statement noting that any member state, including the UK, can demand that any issue pertaining to the eurozone may be discussed in the European Council, which means all 28 member states. However the clause notes that such a request cannot “amount to allowing one or more member states to veto the effective management of the banking union or the future integration of the euro area” which begs the question over how 'safe' Mr Osborne's safeguard really makes non-eurozone states.

    A mechanism whereby an unspecified number of non-euro states can “indicate their reasoned opposition” to a measure being proposed by the eurozone states, and an undertaking that the Council “shall discuss the issue”. The council also pledges to “do all in its power” to engineer a “satisfactory solution” to address the concerns and seek to facilitate “a wider basis of agreement in the Council”. [Draft statement on section A].

    Crucially however the text gives no indication of what will happen if such an agreement cannot be reached."
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...d-cameron-asked-for-and-what-he-actually-got/
     
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  3. TIGERSCAVE

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    Intersting if factual how about we throw into the mix.. PEUGEOT, CITROEN, AUDI, SKODA, SEAT, FIAT, MERCEDES, VW, RENAULT...
     
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    Smile at us, pay us, pass us,but do not quite forget. For we are the people of England and we have not spoken yet. Chesterton
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  5. petersaxton

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    What is the behaviour of Boris and Farage that you can compare to the behaviour of Geldof and Izzard.
    I was actually think of the Remainers who are forever whining on about the result and not the sensible ones who are simply getting on with their lives.
     
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  6. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    I think the main reason was taking back our sovereignty. We were limited by the treaties because we had to implement decisions by the EU. I am in favour of the UK making their own decisions.
     
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    I'm in favour of having sex every night but it doesn't mean it'll happen.
     
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  8. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    Ever since I reach the age of 18 I have voted in every general election and every referendum I could vote in.
     
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  9. petersaxton

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    What will inhibit us from making our own decisions?
     
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    Principal: the person with the highest authority or most important position in an organization, institution, or group.
     
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  11. Old Tige

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    "encapsulates perfectly"

    I blame that **** school and the arrogance it engendered. Can you get your money back?

    The remainers may be bleating, as you put it, as they see how blighted their lives are going to be. Or it may just be the shame they feel at the bigoted, insular and outdated image the result gives of their country. In fact in such a large group, there must be numerous reasons. Some of which even you couldn't imagine.
     
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    When I said that to my other half and asked her if she was for IN or OUT she was disappointed when we turned up at the Polling Station and not upstairs..
     
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  13. Tobes

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    The Telegraph......putting their own spin on the actual facts I.e.that it will not entail budgetary responsibility for bail outs - same as we didn't in 08 btw. We chose to help out Ireland due to the massive UK based banking liabilities that held a huge risk for our banking system.

    It wasn't and isn't our problem.
     
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  14. petersaxton

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    I didn't vote for the local MP - they are a Labour MP and I voted for the Conservative candidate.

    I'll tell you what though - I didnt spend the next weekend whining about how it's not fair or people are too stupid for voting how they did.
     
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    You mean when the World financial crash happened driven by the US bundling up ****e debt and selling it to all and sundry? What has that got to do with the EU?

    We've recovered quicker and stronger than virtually all of our European counterparts, whilst being a member of the EU.
     
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    Why? You could have gone into one of the cubicles.
     
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    Many multi-nationals have their European operations in Holland and Ireland as they have better tax regimes than us.

    If we didn't have a free trade agreement with Europe, no multi-national would base their European operations here. Obviously.
     
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    See my previous post on China, I'm rather surprised an accountant needs it explaining.
     
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    We were in the EU when it happened. You can't pick & choose your economies. It's been good in the EU & it's been ****e. What did our recovery have to do with the EU?
     
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    Some recovery.
     
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