Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

... early exit polls indicate that those staffing them are unlikely to ever get shagged in this life ...

 

Orkney votes to REMAIN

 

Sunderland expecting 60/40 towards leave

 

I've gone for some Piri Piri falafel with hummus, a pizza and some lager, in true British style.

 

So Greek, Italian and German then

 

Sunderland was predicted to vote leave with around this margin anyway.

 

Sums those morons up

Balloon heads

 

Working class balloon heads who haven't got a ****ing scooby about the economic ramifications of this potential decision

 

Despite an early lead for leave I was expecting leave to be ahead early in the night due to the expected areas who would announce early with remain overtaking throughout the night. Several London boroughs expected between 3 and 4 for example.

Interesting that the terrible weather and flooding throughout London today seems to have affected voter numbers in London which will lower remain numbers most likely.

 

Doesn't describe me

Loving my falafel by the way!

 

You're a UKIP voter so politically you're a balloon head by definition mate

 

You meant the Newcastle result, not Sunderland is why you think Leave are set to win.

 

UKIP voter in general elections (in a safe labour seat constituency) and in European elections, not in local, mayoral etc...

And I've voted UKIP purely as a tool to put pressure on government to give us a referendum on the EU which we've now had, so I feel vindicated in my decision.

 

Currency market looking interesting, large jump to 1.5 against the dollar, highest in 2016 before a sharp drop after the Sunderland result was announced, now hovering up and down around 1.45-1.46, seems the market is waiting on some more results but hasn't continued to drop as more results have come in closer to expected than the early couple.

 

So you voted in the GE with the sole intention of plunging the country into economic dispair - well done mate - genius logic

 

With the sole intention of putting pressure on our government to give us a say on our future within an EU that consistently pushes further towards decision making around the eurozone and further political union and further away from an economic tool for the general good of Europeans and the U.K.

It isn't what it was when we decided to join.

In my opinion, based on having studied economics and taken a keen interest in the subject of the EU over the last decade I don't believe we will be plunged into economic despair. I think there is sufficient evidence that economically we can both survive and thrive outside of the EU. A deal will be done giving good, if not continued access to the common market even if that means compromise on issues such as movement of labour (which many of the leave voters who are less informed I'm sure won't be happy about), and we will be able to then pursue further trade deals around the world with greater efficiency at which point I would expect the recovery of any ill effects brought about via uncertainty. Of course the length and depth of the short term negative effect will depend on how we go about negotiating our exit and how efficiently those negotiations are carried out. Whether we leave or not there are serious economic issues facing the EU.

 

I run a business that turns over £50m a year and employs 70 staff. Our prime markets are within the EU and all of our predictions regarding our future post Brexit and a plunging pound are ****ing grim

Your bullshit theoretics won't help my workforce.

 

Your predictions I assume though are based on certain limits and restrictions on access to the common market? Which depends on a deal which hasn't been struck yet and as I've said it depends how we approach the negotiations as to how our access to the common market will be effected. If we are willing to compromise on areas such as labour movement we could well have continued access to the common market with no additional tarriffs.

As for the pound, yes there will be a short term drop, but chatting with a currency trader this evening he thinks the predictions surrounding the level of drop are exaggerated, I'm not saying he individually is correct however there are differing opinions on what the level of effect will be. And again if our access to the common market isn't effected, or is only minimally effected the pound will bounce back.

I appreciate that the short term effects will have an impact on your business, but that isn't the same as plunging the country into economic despair. And for what it's worth, a shrinking economy would effect my own small business and the larger businesses of other family members of mine, though luckily none of the business owners close to me have key clients in the EU.

 

Our predictions are based on the market realities and my prime stake holder is a stock broker.....,

The reality is that a Brexit vote would cripplle our economy in the short to medium term.

Trust me - economically we're ****ed for 2-5 years if this goes the wrong way